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* Should the references contain 'RR' and 'NR', or just the number?
* Should the references contain 'RR' and 'NR', or just the number?
** Just the number [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* How do these tags map to other countries?
* How do these tags map to other countries?
** Depends on which country. Many of them have national cycle networks, and can use the ncn tags. Additionally, many european countries use the same white-on-red colour scheme, so that's even better! [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* RCN and LCN refers to the 'regional cycle network' and 'local cycle network', but in reality (in the UK at least), the routes are all part of the 'National Cycle Network', and are classified as national or regional ''routes'', which would suggest using <code>ncr_ref</code> and <code>rcr_ref</code>.
* RCN and LCN refers to the 'regional cycle network' and 'local cycle network', but in reality (in the UK at least), the routes are all part of the 'National Cycle Network', and are classified as national or regional ''routes'', which would suggest using <code>ncr_ref</code> and <code>rcr_ref</code>.
** Geez, that's pretty nitpicking. It's not likely to change; there's no point. [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* Do we really need both <code>rcn_ref</code> ''and'' <code>lcn_ref</code>?
* Do we really need both <code>rcn_ref</code> ''and'' <code>lcn_ref</code>?
** Yes. Look at [http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=11&lat=6805104.24563&lon=134547.61076&layers=B00 Ipswich], for example. [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* What about a single way that has two or more routes on it?
* What about a single way that has two or more routes on it?
** You can use [[relations]] for this, but it's pretty new. More details will follow when the use of relations stabilises. [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* How about an "international cycle route (icn)? See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroVelo]].
* How about an "international cycle route (icn)? See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroVelo]].
** Show me some tagged routes somewhere, and I'll render them. But I'd imagine the EuroVelo routes will just be re-branded national cycle routes, so it's probably best done using relations rather than adding tags to 1000kms of ways. [[User:Gravitystorm|Gravitystorm]] 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:19, 29 October 2007

I've moved the discussions from the main page onto, well, this discussion page.

Discussion

(The following was copied from Cycle layer)

  • route = ncn is only for UK, in germany we have Radfernwege so better route=bicycle???
    • ncn might be a UK specific thing, but I see no problem with using it for other nation-wide cycle networks, after all you use highway=motorway on autobahn, right?
      • ncn (LF-route in Dutch) is also known in the Netherlands. See [[1]]. Of course every country should try to find the equivalent for this (if existant).
  • how to tag increase((Steigung)is this the word?) of a route?
I'd prefer the suggested ele-tag at the start/end of a way/segment and then calculate the increase (or is it called slope?!?). But I'm not sure if the renderers are able to do this calculation. --Kumakyoo 17:21, 14 May 2007 (BST)
even if they are not able to do it now, they will be, so lets use this.
I don't see the point, why not just use SRTM-data and have the renderer or routeplanner or whatever take heights into account automatically? I think SRTM has good enough quality for most practical purposes.


Issues

  • Should the references contain 'RR' and 'NR', or just the number?
  • How do these tags map to other countries?
    • Depends on which country. Many of them have national cycle networks, and can use the ncn tags. Additionally, many european countries use the same white-on-red colour scheme, so that's even better! Gravitystorm 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • RCN and LCN refers to the 'regional cycle network' and 'local cycle network', but in reality (in the UK at least), the routes are all part of the 'National Cycle Network', and are classified as national or regional routes, which would suggest using ncr_ref and rcr_ref.
    • Geez, that's pretty nitpicking. It's not likely to change; there's no point. Gravitystorm 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Do we really need both rcn_ref and lcn_ref?
  • What about a single way that has two or more routes on it?
    • You can use relations for this, but it's pretty new. More details will follow when the use of relations stabilises. Gravitystorm 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • How about an "international cycle route (icn)? See [[2]].
    • Show me some tagged routes somewhere, and I'll render them. But I'd imagine the EuroVelo routes will just be re-branded national cycle routes, so it's probably best done using relations rather than adding tags to 1000kms of ways. Gravitystorm 19:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)