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Meeting to discuss Tech topics on Monday 22nd September 2014
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| 2015-07-06 17:02:47 dodobas #startmeeting TWG 07.2015 | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:02:47 hot_meetbot` Meeting started Mon Jul 6 15:02:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dodobas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:02:47 hot_meetbot` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:02:47 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "Nepal Earthquake http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake | #hot log: http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm%22 to " (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:02:47 hot_meetbot` The meeting name has been set to 'twg_07_2015' | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:02:56 dodobas ha... there we go | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:03:07 dodobas who is here for the meeting | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:03:15 pgiraud I am | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:03:21 russdeffner Just FYI dodobas, the WG calendar says Tech WG is next week - second Monday of month? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:04:11 dodobas next week is not possible for me... and i should probably update the WG calendar | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:04:15 skorasaurus this is tech, right? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:04:22 dodobas skorasaurus: yes | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:04:38 russdeffner ok, I will change that now - just changed the time for all future meeting to 1500 | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:04:55 dodobas agenda is here: https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-07.2015-upFdrwQqO2S | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:05:08 dodobas not much there... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:05:22 dodobas #topic sysadmin report | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:05:23 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from " (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "sysadmin report (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:05:54 dodobas 10 days ago, HOT openatrium intance was compromised | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:06:26 dodobas openatrium is a Drupal distribution, really resource hungry... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:06:51 dodobas someone placed some files on the server and used it for phishing attacks | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:07:11 dodobas luckily everything was resolved in two days | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:07:35 dodobas openatium WAS used by the board, but there was no activiti in the last 12 months | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:07:59 dodobas we moved all of the documents to GoogleDrive... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:07:59 pgiraud because no one knows it exists? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:08:10 dodobas pgiraud: it was only for the Board | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:08:11 pgiraud or is it because it's not useful? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:08:46 dodobas and they stopped using it... there is a bit of history around that ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:09:24 pgiraud do the board want to keep the instance available even if they stopped using it? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:09:34 dodobas the first openatrium instance was hosted by a Drupal hosting company ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:09:53 dodobas that instance was drupal6 ... on an old ubuntu ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:10:16 dodobas then i was tasked to install a new instance.... on drupal7... butno one really used it | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:11:19 dodobas do you have any more questions about that ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:11:29 pgiraud nope | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:12:07 dodobas #topic Wildcard SSL cerficcate | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:12:07 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "sysadmin report (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "Wildcard SSL cerficcate (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:12:26 dodobas that was someting that e talked about... but it never actually happend | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:13:02 dodobas however tyler and kristen started the procedure to obtain http://www.techsoup.org/products/comodo-wildcard-ssl-certificate--3-year-term-%28donated%29--G-49368-- | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:13:18 dodobas which is quite nice for a 3y deal | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:13:48 dodobas at the moment i don't have too much information, but it has been started AFAIK | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:13:55 russdeffner great | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:14:20 dodobas there were other possiblitites, but this one is best for that price | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:14:31 dodobas any questions ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:14:54 dodobas #topic DNS transfer | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:14:54 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "Wildcard SSL cerficcate (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "DNS transfer (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:15:45 dodobas I've managed to get in touch with Kate and start the DNS transfer from her account to HOT (based on Amazon Route 53) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:15:48 dodobas but... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:15:55 <-- ivansanchez (~ivan@2001:700:300:2121:1bf:73ec:dcb:617c) has quit | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:16:12 dodobas the transfer was canceled, because Kate did not confirm the transfer | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:16:37 dodobas i guess she was not been able to access the internet | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:16:57 dodobas so i need to contact here again, and figure out what to do | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:17:34 dodobas last message i got from Amazon was ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:17:40 dodobas We weren't able to transfer the domain name. This is because: | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:17:40 dodobas Max waiting duration for owner responses (6 days) reached | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:17:57 dodobas we also need to trasfer learnosm.org ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:18:04 dodobas same procedure... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:18:14 --> ivansanchez (~ivan@2001:700:300:2121:7d38:9132:53d9:b905) has joined #hot | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:18:32 dodobas #topic GitHub access/privileges reorganization | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:18:32 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "DNS transfer (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "GitHub access/privileges reorganization (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:19:05 dodobas at the last meeting we were discussing what to do with user and privileges on hotosm github account | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:20:00 dodobas first of all, there are too many owners...=== a lot of potential problems | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:20:13 <-- CloCkWeRX (~clockwerx@118.211.38.194) has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:20:28 dodobas like, someone's account gets compromised ... and we are dead | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:20:41 russdeffner #idea have one or two people who coordinate all owner/permission | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:20:56 <-- ivansanchez (~ivan@2001:700:300:2121:7d38:9132:53d9:b905) has quit | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:21:07 dodobas the other issue is that ... at the moment it's not possible to have really fine grained permissions for teams | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:21:45 dodobas for example, we want users to maintain their repository, who can do what | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:22:09 dodobas there are only three privileges, Admin, Write and Read for Teams per repository | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:22:59 dodobas and if we create, for example OSMTM2-admins (with admin privilege) it's not possible to allow that users to maintain OSMTM2-users | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:23:13 dodobas OSMTM2-users have 'write privilege' | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:23:39 dodobas by maintain i mean, add/invite users to the OSMTM2-users repo | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:23:52 dodobas to do that, you need to be an organization owner | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:23:58 dodobas so that's not good | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:24:17 dodobas however ... Github is working on https://github.com/orgs/improved-permissions | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:24:33 dodobas which should allow much more fine grained privileges management | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:24:53 russdeffner ok, so... maybe we need to have one person from each team/project to be 'owner' until finer management is available | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:24:53 dodobas and I have 'applied' hotosm organization to test that functionality | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:26:15 dodobas but still nothing | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:26:50 dodobas russdeffner: we could do it like that ... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:26:53 * BlakeGirardot sneaks in and stands quietly in the back. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:27:11 dodobas basically remove everyone, and add to the owners if they complain... | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:27:17 russdeffner :) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:27:27 dodobas until we get new privs. management | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:07 dodobas do you agree with that ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:13 dodobas can I do it ? :) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:13 russdeffner I think another solution would be that 'staff'/tech project managers and Tyler could be the 'owners' and vet anyone who asks for the privilege | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:27 BlakeGirardot I vote yes, do it. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:32 skorasaurus go for it. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:42 skorasaurus I'd just run it by the board perhaps first. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:47 BlakeGirardot It is well worth the trade offs, too many members with privs is an accident waiting to happen. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:52 skorasaurus true | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:28:56 skorasaurus go for it now | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:04 russdeffner I'd say 'don't run by the Board' just keep Tyler in th eloop | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:11 dodobas ok, it will happen in the next few days... ill send an email to the mailinglist | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:11 skorasaurus yeah, that would be better russdeffner | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:17 BlakeGirardot I would not run it by the board, you are in charge of that stuff dodobas | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:21 dodobas russdeffner: tyler knos about it | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:29 dodobas BlakeGirardot: YES I AM :) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:35 BlakeGirardot rawr | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:37 russdeffner ok, great | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:49 dodobas but noone asked if I really want to be... anyway :) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:29:57 dodobas moving to pierre ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:04 pgiraud yep | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:13 dodobas #topic Tasking manager 2 | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:13 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "GitHub access/privileges reorganization (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "Tasking manager 2 (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:40 pgiraud so nothing really new here if you read my email sent to the list last week | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:45 pgiraud about the new release | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:30:58 pgiraud I think the performance are better now | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:31:28 pgiraud dodobas had several things to fix before it could be deployed but we're good I think | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:31:39 --> CloCkWeRX (~clockwerx@173.245.209.135) has joined #hot | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:00 pgiraud we'll see tomorrow night during the London mapathon | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:12 pgiraud which I'll attend | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:44 russdeffner great, thanks pgiraud | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:45 pgiraud i'm supposed to meet rekth there | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:54 BlakeGirardot *fingers crossed* | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:32:55 pgiraud as well as people from MSF and RedCross | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:33:09 pgiraud BlakeGirardot, are you gonna be there as well? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:33:21 BlakeGirardot I wish, I'll be flying to South Dakota, USA | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:33:32 pgiraud OK | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:08 pgiraud the idea is to figure how the interface can be improved | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:17 pgiraud we'll do some user testing | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:38 pgiraud any questions? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:40 BlakeGirardot I tried to convey this to rekth | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:45 BlakeGirardot but I don't know I did a good job | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:34:51 BlakeGirardot I am most interested | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:35:00 BlakeGirardot in once a project has been selected | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:35:22 BlakeGirardot how description, instructions, contribute tabs are for people to understand and navigate | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:35:27 BlakeGirardot for example | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:35:42 BlakeGirardot from mapping, please go and look at what you should be mapping | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:35:45 BlakeGirardot type of questions. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:36:12 BlakeGirardot I don't know, the linear nature of those, I think is someone non intuitive, but I could be wrong | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:36:30 BlakeGirardot desc -> instructions -> contrib (now with no instructions showing) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:36:52 BlakeGirardot Maybe it is no problem, but any feedback you can gather would help I think. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:37:05 BlakeGirardot That was my only comment. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:37:38 pgiraud ok | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:37:54 pgiraud dodobas -> I'm done | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:40:47 dodobas ok | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:41:18 dodobas #topic hot exports issue | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:41:18 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "Tasking manager 2 (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "hot exports issue (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:41:50 dodobas sverein added it to agenda, seems like 'spatialite' binary is missing | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:42:04 dodobas that's something I need to checkout | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:42:54 dodobas frederik (geofabrik) moved exports to a new server, so he might have forgot to install spatialite binaries, or those are not available for the new ubuntu system | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:43:02 skorasaurus BlakeGirardot: you should meet up with andrewBuck ;) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:43:25 dodobas does anone have anything else ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:43:55 skorasaurus BlakeGirardot, I'm about to send out an email to help kick start the HOT tagging email group | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:43:57 BlakeGirardot I have one follow up on the previous topic when it is appropriate. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:44:10 dodobas BlakeGirardot: go ahead, | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:44:16 skorasaurus dodobas, I can wait to discuss the tagging until later, after BlakeGirardot | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:44:17 BlakeGirardot skorasaurus: that is great, I will get my one docuemnt organized asap | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:44:37 BlakeGirardot Mine was just if you dodobas do not want to manage github, I can do it. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:44:46 BlakeGirardot didn't mean to dump it on you | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:45:13 dodobas it not a problem :) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:45:37 BlakeGirardot Ok, let me know if you change your mind or we accidently dump something else on you and I'll try and be more aware of that. Thats all for me. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:48:50 dodobas skorasaurus: you have somthing for us, or ? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:48:55 dodobas do we end the meeting? | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:49:03 BlakeGirardot I have this for skorasaurus | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:49:04 BlakeGirardot https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NsYUhEZc3i6j2xdZniEkZFeCJgBD9R9BRliOUcDHrJs/edit?usp=sharing | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:50:35 skorasaurus one sec. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:51:41 skorasaurus nice. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:51:50 BlakeGirardot Thank Tom Gertin | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:51:50 skorasaurus dodobas, not just really for BlakeGirardot | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:52:05 BlakeGirardot Ya, tagging is probably not techwg interesting. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:52:21 skorasaurus https://gist.github.com/3ed8a4e6031c22d21be7 what I have for the an email. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:52:30 skorasaurus it's more broader. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:09 BlakeGirardot Ya, that looks great to me skorasaurus | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:14 skorasaurus and I just updated it a little more. | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:19 skorasaurus if you refresh | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:31 BlakeGirardot Lets let dodobas close this one and I have a few things to ask you skorasaurus | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 dodobas #endmeeting | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 -- hot_meetbot` has changed topic for #hot from "hot exports issue (Meeting topic: TWG 07.2015)" to "Nepal Earthquake http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake | #hot log: http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm%22 | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 hot_meetbot` Meeting ended Mon Jul 6 15:53:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 hot_meetbot` Minutes: http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-07-06-15.02.html | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 hot_meetbot` Minutes (text): http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-07-06-15.02.txt | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:37 hot_meetbot` Log: http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-07-06-15.02.log.html | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:53:42 dodobas a ha ! | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:54:07 skorasaurus np BlakeGirardot | ||
| 2015-07-06 17:54:14 dodobas next one... probably Augutst 3rd |