Ireland/Boundaries

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Intro

Administrative Boundaries are defined as relations over ways that are either drawn for this purpose only, or use ways that naturally form the boundary, such as center lines of rivers.

Care must be taken not to join those river segments that are part of a boundary with other segments. River segments forming part of a boundary should be additionally tagged with boundary=administrative.

Coastal counties must be closed with a way through the water, capturing the island belonging to the respective county.

All county relations must be circular loops, i.e. all segments arranged in sequence, which can be checked in the JOSM relation editor.

The layers.openstreetmap.fr map viewer has some handy layers for checking the current state of our admin boundaries.


To Do:

Talk about Irish administrative districts: Provinces, Baronies, Civil Parishes, Townlands etc..

Baronies, Civil Parishes, Townlands details should be on each respective county page, eventually.

Data Sources

User:Larryone discovered maps of Ireland from 1900, scanned by Derek from booksulster.com. http://www.libraryireland.com/Atlas/Contents.php. They were converted to images and added to warper. This allows a WMS layer in JOSM.

A number of county borders are based on this out-of-copyright 1900 atlas, more info.

Here is a howto for calibrating the warper at the Lat/Lon grid references in the atlas scans:

- Whatever ellipsoid is being used in the atlas, it might be sufficiently matching the WGS84 at the large scale of the scans

- The atlas grid has lines at e.g. 20', 40', 00', that is in decimal degrees 0.33333333333, 0.6666666666 and 0.0

- In the control-point page of the warper, set a control-point in the left scan window on a grid crossing.

- Set the corresponding point in the right OSM window approximately. Add the control point by pressing the button "Add Control Point".

- In the numerical fields below, you get the approximate Lat/Lon coordinate, so the full degree should be correct.

- adjust the numerical lat/lon values according to the minute grid line, i.e. to end with 0.333333333, 0.6666666666, 0.0000, take care of the correct full degree value at the 0 min line

- the page automatically rounds the decimal degrees to its internal precision, so enter plenty of 66 or 33

- walking along the eastings and jumping up the northings gives a pattern that is easily done

This was done first for Kerry http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1456 and produced good results, without the need to look for existing landmarks.

Boundary Types

refer to boundary=administrative

Type admin_level Notes
National Border 2 e.g. between Rep Ireland and Northern Ireland
Northern Ireland state 4 reserved for compatability with UK states
Province 5 e.g. Leinster, Ulster, Munster, Connacht
Traditional County 6 e.g. Dublin, Tipperary, Cork, Kildare
Adminstrative County and County Cities 7 e.g. Admin counties (North Tipperary, South Tipperary, Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown, Fingal, South Dublin, Dublin City), 5 County Cities (Dublin City, Cork City, Limerick City , Waterford City, Galway City)
Borough & Town councils, and Dublin Postal Districts 8 e.g. 5 City Boroughs (Clonmel, Drogheda, Kilkenny, Sligo, Wexford), 75 Town councils (see Local Government), Dublin 7
Townland 10

National Borders

The following relations are being used for the national border:

Republic of Ireland Relation.png 62273 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) OPEN

Northern Ireland Relation.png 156393 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) OPEN

United Kingdom Relation.png 62149 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) OPEN

The border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland is mapped, but based on very inaccurate data. So far, no usable source of better data for the whole border has been identified, though out of copyright Ordnance Survey maps would be one option, if available.

For now, a practical approach is to collect waypoint information for known points on the border. Road crossings are the most obvious source here. Typically the border can be identified by a change in road surface and/or a signed change between km/h and mph speed limits. The way point can then be made into a node and the existing border split and spliced to use it.

It is useful, when placing a border node on a surveyed location, to tag the node with something like note=Border Crossing RoI/NI, source=survey. Try to avoid moving nodes tagged in this way.

Progress

Ordered from Carlingford Lough towards Lough Foyle.

Crossing Surveyed how? % confidence Last updated by Notes
R173 Omeath/Newry GPS at bridge 100% --Mackerski 11:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
R132/B113 Carrickcarnon GPS at pavement and limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)--
Unclassified between R132 and N1 Carrickcarnon GPS at speed limit change 95% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)-- Two bridges, exact border unclear, went with speed limit
N1/A1 Carrickcarnon GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
N1 off ramp Jonesborough GPS at speed limit 10% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)-- Border is half way up ramp
? at N1 junction Flurry Bridge GPS at bridge 100% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)-- Border is River Flurry at west end of bridge over new N1 and J'Borough junction
? Jonesborough-Dundalk near railway GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)-- Main road to Dundalk from J'borough
Railway Dundalk/Newry GPS at marker 90% --Mackerski 19:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)--
N2/A5 Aughnacloy GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
N3/A509 Aghalane GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Border follows Woodford River at this point for unknown distance either side of road
? Florence Court Rd-Blacklion GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
N16/A4 Blacklion/Belcoo GPS at speed limit change 100% --Mackerski 19:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Temporary bridge in place and mapped. Original to be rebuilt, located about 10m west of temp one.
R282/? Rossinver/Garrison GPS at bridge 100% --Mackerski 11:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
N3/? Belleek GPS at bridges, road changes, other clues 100% --Mackerski 11:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Covers the several crossings S of urban area and the country road north of police station.
?/? Pettigo The river forms the border in the vicinity of the village
N14/A38 Lifford/Strabane Inference from River Location 80% --Mackerski 19:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC) The river forms the border
N13/A2 Bridge End/Derry
A2/R238 Derry/Muff Border is directly at southern end of Muff village


Provinces

Name Relation Notes
Leinster Relation.png 278746 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked
Munster Relation.png 278750 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked
Connacht Relation.png 278721 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked
Ulster Relation.png 278664 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked

Counties grouped by province

Leinster

Name Relation Source 1900 map scan
Carlow Relation.png 285977 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx )circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1438 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1438
Dublin Relation.png 282800 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1433 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1433
Kildare Relation.png 285833 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1437 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1437
Kilkenny Relation.png 285980 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1455
Laois Relation.png 285915 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1454 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1454
Longford Relation.png 335445 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1451
Louth Relation.png 281825 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked (old, deleted: 285990) http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1450
Meath Relation.png 282818 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1448
Offaly Relation.png 335442 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1446
Westmeath Relation.png 335446 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1441 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1441
Wexford Relation.png 285981 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1439 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1439
Wicklow Relation.png 282760 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1431 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1431

Leinster Administrative Counties

Name Relation Source Notes
Dublin City Relation.png 1109531 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) http://www.acts.ie/framed/en.act.1985.0007.6.html#sched1 http://achtanna.oireachtas.ie/framed/en.pract.1953.0001.2.html
Fingal Relation.png 1114164 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx )
Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown Relation.png 1115720 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx )

http://www.acts.ie/framed/en.act.1985.0007.8.html

South Dublin Relation.png 1117469 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx )

Munster

Name Relation Source 1900 map scan
Clare Relation.png 334885 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1463 and is_in information for Whitegate area http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1463
Cork Relation.png 332631 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked is_in interpolation towards Limerick and Waterford, Atlas towards Kerry http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1462
Kerry Relation.png 332622 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1456 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1456
Limerick Relation.png 334898 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked neighbor counties http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1452
Tipperary Relation.png 334372 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1443 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1443
Waterford Relation.png 283426 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked rivers and is_in tags http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1440

Connacht

Name Relation Source 1900 map scan
Galway Relation.png 335444 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked neighbor counties http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1457
Leitrim Relation.png 284368 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1453
Mayo Relation.png 338539 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1449 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1449
Roscommon Relation.png 335443 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked neighbor counties http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1445
Sligo Relation.png 335330 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1444 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1444

Ulster

Name Relation Source 1900 map scan
Antrim Relation.png 1119534 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked neighbour counties http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1465
Armagh Relation.png 1119535 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1430 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1430
Cavan Relation.png 283679 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1464
Derry Relation.png 284555 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1461 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1461
Down Relation.png 1119533 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1459 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1459
Donegal Relation.png 283732 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1460
Fermanagh Relation.png 1118085 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked neighbour counties http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1458
Monaghan Relation.png 283647 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1447
Tyrone Relation.png 1117773 (XML, check, manage, JOSM, history, view, gpx ) circular linked http://warper.geothings.net/maps/wms/1442 http://warper.geothings.net/maps/1442
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