Proposed features/Community food growing

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Community food growing
Status: Proposed (under way)
Proposed by: TomChance
Tagging: landuse=community_food_growing
Applies to: Node, Way, Area
Definition: Land used for community to grow food on
Rendered as: Like allotments
Drafted on: 2010-11-12

Proposal

This would enable us to map land used for community food growing projects.

Rationale

We currently have these two related tags:

  • landuse=farmland - land used for commercial crop cultivation and livestock rearing
  • landuse=allotments - land divided into private plots for individuals to grow their own food

But we have no means of tagging land used by communities to grow food collectively in a non-profit way. There is a growing interest in community food growing projects around the world, as evidenced by the following just from London:

And further afield:

For an idea of why these are different to farms and allotments, see the Capital Growth edible estates awards.

Why not another subtag?

I am sure lots of people will suggest a subtag of farmland/allotments, something like community=yes or access=community. But these spaces are neither farms nor allotments, so it would be misleading to qualify farmland/allotment with a subtag.

Tagging

I would propose:

It could equally be something close like landuse=communal_food_growing. Or there may be a similar wording that more easily includes livestock, as some community food spaces have goats, pigs, etc. I'm open to suggestions!

Rendering

Except for in specialist maps, I would suggest these are rendered in the same way as allotments.

Comments

Leave any comments here, I will move them to the discussion page once the draft is progressed to the vote. TomChance 11:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, this is a nice idea, but why not a own tag that can be assigned to other landuse=*? For example shared_land=yes;no? To me a own landuse type seems to be a bit 'luxurious' ;) --!i! This user is member of the wiki team of OSM 18:56, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Because, as explained above, these aren't "shared farms" or "shared allotments", they are a different use of the land. TomChance 11:29, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

What about setting a subtag for gardens? There is already a broad variety of suggested subtags for gardens and I have tagged these in the past as gardens. -- Dieterdreist 11:15, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I had a look at Proposed_features/Garden_specification, which looks great, but doesn't really match this use of land any more than it could be qualified by a subtag to cover allotments. TomChance 11:29, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I think this makes a lot of sense and has my support. There are lots of community food growing projects popping up in the UK and not a great way to tag them, as they aren't private allotments. Re garden tags - don't really think that it is descriptive enough - as this is about food growing. So I also agree they should be rendered as allotments. SamSmith 10:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I just came across a community garden and your proposal seems to fit, so I have followed it (Way 148115070 (XML, Potlatch2, iD, JOSM, history)). I think dropping the "growing" from the value would leave a more generic but still acceptable tag? And agree about landuse seeming the right fit. One additional wrinkle I came across is the ownership/operation/naming problem that is a general problem, given this seems quite likely to come up for community gardens the proposal might give it a few words? Craigloftus 20:34, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I think its a good idea to have a distinct tag for this. How to progress this proposal? Pmackay (talk) 17:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I see no other way to tag community gardens and this proposal makes sense. They are reasonably common around where I live. Have used at least once and would like to progress its assimilation. I would entertain a discussion about the value being different, something like "community_garden" or "community_food" as suggested above. Hubne (talk) 08:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Have combined this tag with others both successfully and without harm (I believe). There's this combination I think makes sense maybe even instead of community_food_growing:
* leisure=garden
* operator=community (I think this key/value could be successfully applied in a number of community-operated objects that we map)
… then to indicate the purpose of the garden, it gets creative but I might turn this into a proposal:
* garden=food
I think it's important to have something like that to indicate food, anyway. It's the only essential but non-standard part of my tagging though :) -- Hubne (talk) 07:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
I was looking for the right tag(s) to map the community farm near me and nothing quite fit (Way 442720540 (XML, Potlatch2, iD, JOSM, history)). It's not leisure=garden because the purpose is food production and job creation. It's not landuse=farmland because it is not commercial and it is not landuse=allotments because it is a collective enterprise. Looking at the websites listed in this proposal, this seems the best fit for York Community Farm. David Colby-Hutchison 08:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)