Tag:sport=diving

+/- sport=diving Description To mark a spot for scuba diving Used on these elements Useful combination name=* Used combinations in World Australia/Oceania Europe (list) Asia (list) Central America (list) South America (list) Africa (list) Status Undefined

The Blue Hole reef (Egypt) which is used by scuba divers, free divers and snorkelers.

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Cliff Diving

See: Tag:sport=cliff_diving

Scuba Diving

See: Tag:sport=scuba_diving
Talk:Tag:sport=scuba_diving

Depreciated old "diving"

See: Proposed_features/scuba_diving2

Summary

Intent: To mark a base or known place for scuba diving

• List of Scubadivers: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Scubadiver
• If you are a Scubadiver you could add the Category 'Scubadiver'.

How to Map

Applies to nodes and areas

• sport=diving
• + name=Dive_Spot_Name...

Proposed value

Intent: To mark the location to dive to, means boat derelict, coral reef, fish farm, cave and so on.

Tagging:

The new value may be used with the sport tag with nodes. The proposed tag is:

sport=diving

Rendering

OpenSeaMap is rendering scuba-diving-spots.
Select "Sport layer"
They are rendered in z=14..18

Naming

Most people already mapping dive spots seem to use sport=diving (see e.g. DE:Switzerland/DiveSpots). But there is no full agreement on this, as some people propose to use something like sport=scuba_diving instead. This would help to distinguish the spots from cliff diving spots and is in agreement to the naming on Wikipedia's list of sports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports). There is a proposal for a new tag sport=scuba_diving and an additional name-space under way. Please check the proposal at Proposed features/scuba_diving.

Useful combinations

In addition to purely marking and naming the spot, some extra information might be of interest:

• entry - shore dive or boat dive
• type of the spot
  • drift dive due to current
  • wall,
  • coral reef
  • archaeology
  • wreck
  • cave etc.
• most interesting depth and maximum depth
• training facilities like platforms
• etc.

At the proposal for sport=scuba_diving there is also a new name-space proposed to tag dive spots with the above information. Please check the proposal for more information and comment/discuss on the proposal.

Tagging of Dive-Shops or Dive-Centers

In addition to mapping dive spots it is definitively useful to map dive shops as well. Dive shops are places were you can rent tanks and equipment, get air-fills to your own tank, book guided tours or dives etc. Most shops also offer courses and specialties. The following should be distinguishable:

• dive centers with full serve and pure air-fill stations withouth any service
• organization of the center/shop, especially for courses and licensing (see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diver_training_organizations)
• if guided tours are offered or not
• if equipment rental is available
• if training and licensing is available
• if equipment is sold in a shop
• maybe the spoken languages for training/guided tours

At the Proposed features/scuba_diving there is also a proposal for the tagging of dive-shops and dive-centers. Please have a look and discuss on the proposal.

Miscellaneous Opinions

Please add your opinions here.

Maybee there are two key-value paairs needed. One for the diving place and the other for the entrance. Raphael 14:00, 9 May 2007 (MEZ)

Get the dive spots (Switzerland)

I asked Mr. and Mrs. Eisenlohr authors of the swiss dive guide per Email (17.04.2009 23.28) if we can use the divespots name and the GPS positions for OSM, they do NOT agree to use them here.

Ich habe die Herausgebers des DiveGuides der Schweiz, per Email am 17.4.09, angefragt ob wir die Tauchplatznamen und Positionen hier in der OSM Karte verwenden können. Leider sind sie nicht damit einverstanden.

For the divespots in Switzerland look here: DE:Switzerland/DiveSpots

Ideas for Tags for Diving

I few points I would like to make:

• Added proposal for wrecks because this is of interest to several types of map users.

• Added proposal for natural life since many diving points of interest are non-moving life forms.

• Dive sites can be hundreds of metres across, especially in the case of drift dives. They also can be ambiguously defined if two dive sites are adjacent but are occasionally dived together. It would be useful to mark the entry and exit points separately since when shore diving, the entry/exit is a distance from the best part of the dive.

Perhaps:

sport=diving
+ name=Shark Reef
"diving:dive_site"="yes"
Non-physical. Node/Area.

"sport"="diving"
"name"="Easy Entry Point"
"diving:entry"="yes"
Non-physical. Node/Way/Area.

"sport"="diving"
"name"="Easy Exit Point"
"diving:exit"="yes"
Non-physical. Node/Way/Area.

sport=diving
+ diving:platform=yes
+ diving:platform_depth=4 (meter)
Physical. Node/Area.

Training in low visibility is often conducted on platforms. "depth" refers to the depth at the base of the platform.

"sport"="diving"
"diving:route_rope"="yes"
Non-physical. Way.

Features that are connected by ropes. This is often done in low visibiliy dive sites.

"sport"="diving"
"name"="Strong downward current"
"diving:hazard"="yes"
Non-physical. Node/Linear/Area.

Applies to particular hazards such as downward currents, shipping areas, overhead environments, etc.

"sport"="diving"
"diving:descent_line"="yes"
Non-physical. Node

I thought I would throw something in the direction of free divers. Free divers and scuba divers often utilize descent lines. Could this interoperate with buoy nodes?

• on underwater features perhaps: (I am on the verge of putting this in a separate proposal.)

"natural"="water"
"water:depth"="35m"
"water:local_max"="yes"
Physical. Node.

• Other features that might be of interest: bottom composition (silt, rock, coral, sand, etc), buoys, normal currents.

• We should try to accommodate all types of diving: scuba, free diving, surface supply diving and also snorkeling.

I suggest snorkelling should have it own tag, sport=snorkelling ? I reckon a good tourist map should clearly mark known coastal spots for at least fishing, safe swimming, surfing, snorkelling, (scuba) diving. MikeCollinson 17

27, 7 June 2007 (BST)

• • One thing I never understood is if we can have one node that is both "sport"="scuba" and "sport"="snorkelling" in one node? Perhaps it should be "sport"="water_sports" with various other options to specify scuba, snorking, free diving, etc. --TimSC 20:23, 7 June 2007 (BST)

• Other Relevant Proposals: water depth contours.

• For an example of a hand drawn diving map: http://www.scubawiki.com/scubawiki/index.php/Image:LeybourneEast.png

--TimSC 15:28, 3 June 2007 (BST)

• I dive in Asia and would certainly vote yes for a sport=diving using the red and white dive flag for rendering. This can be used to mark the general location of specific dive spots and on land to mark dive shops (i.e. the places where you rent tanks and equipment and provide dive boats) as well as dive training tanks in cities. MikeCollinson 17:27, 7 June 2007 (BST)

• • Good point, since dive shops are frequently required to get air fills. Should this be under the shop grouping? --TimSC 20:23, 7 June 2007 (BST)

• • I think we have to distinguish between
• "amenity=air_fill" Where you get air but nothing else
• "shop=diving": Where you can by divegear
• and some other tag for the usual diveshop where you can do diving courses, book diveexcursions, rent divegear,... These should be under sport=diving and not as shop. for example if it offers everything:

"sport"="scuba"
"name"="OSM-Diving"
"diving:airfill"="yes"
"diving:courses"="yes"
"diving:excursions"="yes"
"diving:shop"="yes"
"diving:rental"="yes"

--DimitriJunker 10:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

IMO sport=scuba might be better, to distinguish from e.g. cliff diving spots. --Hawke 00:09, 12 June 2007 (BST)

>On this topic, is there any method to have one location that can be marked for multiple water sports? --TimSC 08:29, 17 June 2007 (BST)

• Does it make sense to mark spots where diving is not permitted, dangerous or only allowed with a special licence? --Andy 12:04, 5 August 2007 (BST)

• We need to tighten up the proposal for a vote. I suggest that we vote allow voting on both the following, if second fails, at least the primary objective is achieved. Specialist may want diving:xxx tags, let's leave them for a future go around.

Proposal Option 1:

sport=scuba (to distinguish general underwater recreational tank diving as suggested by Hawke ... or does this make it too tight?)

Proposal Option 2:

sport=scuba - of interest to general underwater recreational diving with tanks; dive spots, dive shops, dive tanks and training

sport=snorkeling - of interest to recreational swimmers with a snorkel face mask

sport=water_sports - places with one or more unspecified water sports

MikeCollinson 14:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposal Option 3:

for Divespots:

"sport=diving"

"name=Dive_Spot_Name"

for Divingshops:

"shop=diving"

"name=Name_of_the_shop"

for Airfill stations:

"amenity=air_fill"

for attractions in the water:

"divespot=boat"

"depth=7m"

"name=Titanic"

"divespot=wall"

"depth=7m"

"maxdepth=20m"

"divespot=drink_water_tube"

"depth=7m"

"maxdepth=40m"

"divespot=reef"

"depth=7m"

Tric 15:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Based on comments and realising my idea was over ambitious, I have proposed sport=water_sports. I would appreciate comments. --TimSC 19:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Also ich würde unterscheiden zwischen Tauchrevier:

sport=diving
+ name=Barrier Reef
+ deepth=28

und Tauchbasis:

 sport=diving
+ name=Tauchschule XY
+ building=yes
+ filling=Nitrox
+ ...

--Markus 14:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

• Some fire stations offer air filling as a secundary service, sometimes even for free. Such fire stations should be tagged in some way to allow for better planning of a diving tripp. From the top of my head I can only say that the firestations in Kristiansund and Trondheim (both in Norway) offer this service during normal business hours, and when there are no emergencies. One fireman I talked to said that it doesn't cost them anything to do it, as they need a large bank of compressed air to refill their own equipment, and that if anything goes wrong in a dive, they are often the ones to be called out, so this way they also build a relationship with the diving communities. airfilling=yes is probably a good tag for this as they also offer airfilling for other activities (such as paintball) --Skippern 10:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

• I am interested in getting the divesites tag created, my only question is if we should discuss with Openseamap people, or at least let them know --Central America 14:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Somebody have documented a tag amenity=compressed_air indicated for filling tyres of cars and bicycles, this tag can also be adopted for filling of diving gases if the correct adjustments are made. --Skippern 20:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)