Proposed features/Lean to

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lean_to
Status: Rejected (inactive)
Proposed by: Sletuffe
Tagging: tourism=lean_to
Applies to: node
Definition: "A lean-to is a shed with typically three walls located in the countryside intended to provide shelter."
Drafted on:
Proposed on: 2009-08-01
RFC start: 2012-04-05
Vote start: 2012-04-20
Vote end: 2012-05-05

Proposal

"A lean-to is a shed with typically three walls located in the countryside intended to provide shelter."

Required properties :

  • Rough shelter with typically three walls found in the countryside
  • The access is usually restricted to foot, mountain bike or ski.
  • Free rent, open to the public
  • Not fully closed, at least one open wall
  • Has floor, suitable for sleeping only with proper equipment to prevent cold and bugs
  • No fireplace inside
  • Normally made of wood.
  • Optional owner access through restricted tracks might still be possible, also access by cablelift or helicopter.

See also:
Lean-to on Wikipedia

This proposal is part of a set of tags for Proposed features/wilderness_mountain_buildings

Rationale

This tag is used 606 times at 2012-04-01 07:59 UTC

Examples

Tagging

Applies to nodes or area (forming the building outlines)

Key Value Discussion
tourism lean_to The main tag

Additional tags to discribe the equipment

Other useful generic tags :

  • ele=* elevation
  • name=* name
  • capacity=* sleeping capacity
  • description=* fill more information with text
  • operator=* typically used to indicate huts owned or maintained by a specific organisation. E.g. administration of forest or national parks.

Applies to

Applies to nodes

Rendering

Lean to blue p20.svg or Lean to red p20.svg or Lean to.p32.png or Lean to2.p32.png or Lean to3.p32.png
Proposal for shelter: Shelter brown p20.svg

Features/Pages affected

The new tag tourism=lean_to means rather the same as amenity=shelter with shelter_type=weather_shelter.

While amenity=shelter can be used for any kind of shelter also not man-made, tourism=lean_to has a specific meaning.

The tag shelter_type=weather_shelter was used 1031 times at 2012-04-01 07:59 UTC. These nodes should be changed to tourism=lean_to.

Comments

See Talk:Proposed features/Lean to

Voting

  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. sletuffe 15:34, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Rudolf 16:32, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. FedericoCozzi 18:01, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. but would remove the "No fireplace inside" clause. --Kaitu 18:19, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Pedja 19:25, 26 April 2012 (CET)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. --Geri-oc 18:34, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. I point out to Fabi2 that in the US, at least, a lean-to is different from a weather shelter in that it is intended for camping; the description of the 'weather_shelter' type specifically states that it is intended for sleeping only in emergencies. -- Ke9tv 00:55, 23 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. Only proposes to change amenity=shelter + shelter_type=weather_shelter to tourism=lean_to without further gain. --Fabi2 19:44, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. Same reason as above. amenity=shelter is well established, no need to reinvent the wheel. To make it even worse, tourism=* seems the wrong key, because a lean-to may be used not only by tourists. --Fkv 19:52, 20 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. I agree with both the comments above. -- Al3xius 10:54, 21 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. Same arguments as Fabi2 and Fkv --Maxbe 00:43, 22 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. I second Fabi2's arguments -- SKald 19:00, 22 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. This is just another name for a shelter, no need for this tag. In Denmark we call this half open thing a "shelter" (since there is no native name in Danish for it). --polderrunner 20:12, 22 April 2012 (BST)
  • I approve this proposal I approve this proposal. I see far too much confusion if amenity=shelter + shelter_type=weather_shelter is used. Essentially any amenity=shelter without further classification cannot be properly evaluated as to what it is. Therefore I prefer lean to.--Extremecarver 08:05, 23 April 2012 (BST)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. A general and meaningful tag is worth more than a thousand specialized tags, that nobody but a handful of specialists worldwide know. Lets stick to the principle: a general tag and attributes to refine it. --BorisC 23:51, 23 April 2012 (BST)

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Voting result

Voting is closed. 11 users voted "yes", 13 user voted "no". Proposal has reached the minimum amount of 15 votes with a majority disapproval.

13 user suggest to use amenity=shelter. 4 user suggest to use optional shelter_type=lean_to