Proposed features/farmyard
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| The Feature Page for the approved proposal farmyard can be located at Tag:landuse=farmyard. |
| farmyard | |
|---|---|
| Status: | Approved (active) |
| Proposed by: | Xylome |
| Tagging: | landuse=farmyard |
| Applies to: | area |
| Definition: | Area of land with farm buildings (farmstead, sheeds, stables) / barnyard |
| Rendered as: | brown |
| Draft start: | 2008-06-06 |
| RFC start: | 2008-06-11 |
| Vote start: | 2008-06-26 |
| Vote end: | 2008-07-11 |
Summary
Proposal for the new tag landuse=farmyard for an area 
of land with farm buildings (farmstead, sheeds, stables)
This will resolve the ambiguous use of landuse=farm.
There have been several (emotional) discussions on talk-de in the last months about landuse=farm and its ambiguous meaning in the english language and even more in the german translations. In consequence the landuse=farm tag has been used by some mappers to tag farmland, others using it to tag the farmyard with all the farm buildings.
Tag suggestion:
<tag k="landuse" v="farmyard"/>
Also See
Proposed features/agricultural Field
Voting
- I approve this proposal. --xylome 18:18 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. Robx 18:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Eimai 18:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Walley 18:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Grumly 18:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Patzi 19:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--MRQ 19:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I oppose this proposal.--this is ridiculous - an abuse of the landuse tag. there is no way a farmyard is significant enough to warrant it's own landuse tag - it's just a yard, the same in principle as the one behind my house; a slab of concrete, with a shed on it, that is all private access. use landuse=farm (or whatever the farm tag is), then include an area within that as a yard, maybe as a relation. what next, landuse=hospital_car_park? landuse=university_quad? plus, how on earth can we have a landuse within another item, that's totally inconsistent with how landuse is accepted as being applied. and we have the possibility of landuse=agriculture and a landuse=farmyard within that, another inconsistency Myfanwy 19:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- seems that farmyards look different all around the world. you are not forced to use it for your backyard. in the former east-germany wikipedia:Landwirtschaftliche_Produktionsgenossenschaft, russia and usa are some no so ridiculous, rather huge and significant (some hectares) farmyards. --xylome 21:11 26 June 2008(UTC)
- i'm not making a point based on size, merely that it's a part of something else, a farm, so let's tag it with existing, general, flexible tags, as being part of the farm, rather than creating a very narrow, specific tag like this. i suspect also, that there is a language issue here - that it has changed it's meaning subtly but significantly during the translation, and become something different Myfanwy 22:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- i think you misunderstood the meaning of the proposed tag. You won't have nested landuses. The "farmyard" of this proposal is not intended for the yard of a farm, but for an whole area with agricultural buildings on it. So it is meant in the same sense as (your?) "farm", only with the hope for less disambiguity and misuse. If it deserves a special landuse-tag is a different question. Personally, i'm quite indifferent to this proposal (so i won't vote), but i can easily understand someone saying that agricultural use is as important as for example industrial... --Linse 17:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- the landuse tags appear to be a way of saying "i'm not going to map every entity in this area, it's too complicated/of no value - instead, i'm going to map one big piece of land, encompassing them all and tag it with a general tag which sums up which each of them do". This is a quote from you (Myfanwy). The landuse=farmyard in this proposal encompases: the farmhouse, stables, barns, equipment sheds, feed bunkers, etc. plus the open space in between them and the shrubbery/trees around them. While there exist tags to map these individual items, in most places you won't have sufficiently accurate tools/data for that. Thus the need for an aggregate tag. According to your own definition of landuse, this aggregate tag fits in that category. --Cartinus 14:21, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- i think you misunderstood the meaning of the proposed tag. You won't have nested landuses. The "farmyard" of this proposal is not intended for the yard of a farm, but for an whole area with agricultural buildings on it. So it is meant in the same sense as (your?) "farm", only with the hope for less disambiguity and misuse. If it deserves a special landuse-tag is a different question. Personally, i'm quite indifferent to this proposal (so i won't vote), but i can easily understand someone saying that agricultural use is as important as for example industrial... --Linse 17:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- i'm not making a point based on size, merely that it's a part of something else, a farm, so let's tag it with existing, general, flexible tags, as being part of the farm, rather than creating a very narrow, specific tag like this. i suspect also, that there is a language issue here - that it has changed it's meaning subtly but significantly during the translation, and become something different Myfanwy 22:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- seems that farmyards look different all around the world. you are not forced to use it for your backyard. in the former east-germany wikipedia:Landwirtschaftliche_Produktionsgenossenschaft, russia and usa are some no so ridiculous, rather huge and significant (some hectares) farmyards. --xylome 21:11 26 June 2008(UTC)
- I approve this proposal.-- and I do deprecate the wording 'ridiculous'. We should try to avoid offending volunteers. Friedel 22:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Uboot 22:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I oppose this proposal. --Longbow4u 03:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC), like Myfanwy, landuse=residential is sufficient for farmyards, no need for extra tag. Landuse=farm is for fields of crops etc.
- there are often farmyards where nobody lives and even if there is a dwelling it is small compared to the rest of the farmyard, so landuse=residantial would be wrong. please try to imagine that the way people are using their land is different all over the world... there are extremely dense populated areas in japan with stacked trunk roads and skyscrapers and there are areas in australia and new zealand with almost zero human inhabitants.
- I approve this proposal. Vrabcak 11:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--SlowRider 12:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Cbm 13:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Malenki 15:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Elwood 08:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Mueck 16:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--Dieterdreist 11:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Cartinus 12:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I oppose this proposal. Due to a muddying of the landuse tag. It represents a general use of land, agriculture in this case, which should include both the farmyard and fields, the fields should in turn be tagged using a more appropriate 'physical' tag. --Thomas Wood 15:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal.--FK270673 12:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
This feature is urgently needed, as you can see here. --FK270673 12:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --Harti 16:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I approve this proposal. --MikeCollinson 19:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Voting close, feature approved. --xylome 07:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
