Talk:Data working group

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Procedure for Membership

The page mentions "Membership of the working group is open to any invited persons". Is there a process to get invited or a criteria for selection? --Planemad/Talk 19:14, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

OTRS Login

OTRS requires login and password, but no information what login and password it needs. There is no option for creating account, nor does it accept any of OSM related passwords (map or wiki). So, how does one log in? Rmikke (talk) 23:14, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Quote: "you can contact the Data Working Group by sending an e-mail to data@osmfoundation.org. OSM messages to the "OSMF Data Working Group" user will also work, but email's easier for the DWG to deal with and preferred if possible."
The OTRS site itself is effectively restricted because data submitted there must remain private: it includes data about emails sent to them (with the email adress show above) and the exchanges bmay require specific private agreements, this could also include legal data, judiciary decisions and secret agreements coming from private contributors that want to remain publicly anonymous. As well, amny data submitted to them will be about problematic data that violate copyrights or other similar issues, that we cannot and don't want to publish. So this cannot be made public. The Data Working Group however will publish a summary of decisions and will publish the new OTRS state for data that would otherwise seem to violate one of the common rules. The OTRS signature for example is enough to validate data or contents that have been officially approved: we can trust then the indicated licenses.
OTRS membership is not purely voluntary: this is the result of public consultations for the candidates, and approval by the Foundation which could oppose a candidate. This is a highly sensitive group. That's why there's no public form to request on account. They are created by Foundation admins themselves after consulting and after formal contractual agreement signed by the candidate and validation of several procedures (including keeping the secret of communications made privately to the OTRS by anyone in the world).
OTRS members should not be contacted directly and personally. Their list is known, but issues to track are collective and must be tracked. It cannot result of their personal decisions based on untrackable data or private exchanges with them. So in summary: use the email contact, as indicated, or the OSMF Data Working Group" public page if there's no specific problem in your own submission to them. — Verdy_p (talk) 14:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)