Talk:GB/UK group naming question

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First meeting

I think we should move a first meeting to discuss to September. How about 18th September? blackadder 18:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Original England (central) proposal (2009)

This discussion is moved from it's original location at Foundation/Local Chapters/Proposed Chapters#England (central)

Proposal for an "England (central)" chapter. Comprising Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex, Northamptonshire, Bedford and Central Beds., Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Leicestershire, Birmingham, Warwickshire, Rutland, unitary districts of former Avon, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire, Shropshire, West Midlands, Oxfordshire, and including unitary areas in these)

(thinking that there might also be England south (incl. London), England north (starting at Derbyshire, Staffordshire etc), Scotland and Wales; would Ireland want to do its thing across all of Ireland or divide into Northern Ireland and Eire?) (unsigned)

David Earl

The above is rather ambiguous and has a number of overlaps. For example Birmingham and West Midlands are both listed even though Birmingham is within the West Midlands, and there are two West Midlands (West Midlands (county) is within West Midlands). It also spans parts of 4 different English regions (East of England, West Midlands, South West England and South East England). Should we not ask what this chapter would be for? What benefit will it bring to us? If it is about communicating with authority then we need to show we understand the structure and choose the territory and level of government that we want to influence and communicate with. Is there not an argument for having just one chapter for the UK? Is so can the main foundation, which is registed in England do this for us? We could have ones for England, Wales and Scotland separately but I personally don't see the need. PeterIto 13:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I am not clear that this proposal has the support it needs? Can I suggest that we discuss it on talk-gb and then add any conclusions to this page if/when we have agreement to set up a local chapter for all or part of UK/GB/England etc. PeterIto 07:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Germany won't have Bavaria and Rest-Germany, so why does UK always need to split up? --Lulu-Ann 19:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure I see a current need for a Chapter at anything less than national level but if there was, it would seem silly not to do so in line with the political divisions (wikipedia:Regions of England#Regions as areas of administration) where strategic decisions affecting related issues are made. Pishmishy 10:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree this proposed subdivision seems too small for local chapters. Doesn't mean the chapter itself can't be subdivided of course. By the way, for anyone (like me) who gets confused by different names of "countries" etc in our part of the world vicch's Great British Map seems useful
-- Harry Wood 00:27, 12 July 2012 (BST)

This GB Chapter page was set-up, probably following april 2010 mailing list discussions. That's several months after the above discussion, however the actual formation of chapter didn't happen yet, so the discussion about which administrative area to cover, could be re-opened. -- Harry Wood <17:24, 12 October 2010 (BST)

And after all of the above discussions, in 2011 an organisation "OSMGB" was formed. I've documented on this GB Chapter page the situation as I understand it now. (not clear if OSMGB was intended to be a chapter. folks on IRC thought not actually. It's just a name clash. But I'll try to find out more.
-- Harry Wood 00:27, 12 July 2012 (BST)
-- It is a name clash, but not at all relevant to an OSM GB chapter. I really think there should be an OSM-GB page and an GB Chapter page, with a note saying they are not the same thing! SK53 (talk) 16:12, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Agreed I chatted to Steven Feldman about it too. OSGB was not intended to be turned into an OSM community chapter.
...and DONE. I've moved that stuff onto a separete page OSMGB plus noting the name clash
-- Harry Wood (talk) 16:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)