Talk:Key:payment

Contents 1 payment:cash=* 2 insufficient tagging scheme 3 maestro 4 charging stations 5 tolltag payments 6 josm 7 credit cards issued by certain banks only

payment:cash=*

In planet file from 2010-09-01 the key is only used two times. The tag is redundant, use payment:coins=* and payment:notes=* instead. Adjuva 00:31, 10 September 2010 (BST)

maybe because in contrast to coins and notes it was never noted on the wiki page. i see no problem with using cash as a shortcut for coins and notes. actually the separation is only because of vending machines. -- Flaimo 18:53, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

insufficient tagging scheme

this tagging scheme can't always be used to map, if a payment method is explicitly NOT available.

example:

instead of payment:credit_cards=*mastercard;visa;diners_club;american_express;discover_card

it would be better to use:

payment:visa=*yes | no, payment:mastercard=*=yes | no, …

basically the same method used for different fuel types when mapping fuel stations (fuel:octane_91=yes,…). only yes | no values should be used. Flaimo 11:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Lulu-Ann

I would like to change the information on the wiki page to a fixed yes/no/interval list (as stated above). any objections? -- Flaimo 19:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

The old use is still by far more common (ten times more uses of payment:credit_cards=* than payment:mastercard=*), so it should still be documented, even if with reasoning why it's not adequate. Alv 16:08, 6 September 2011 (BST)

maestro

if i read it correctly, than "EC" and "Maestro" are the same thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestro_%28debit_card%29 . if that is the case we should eliminate "EC" since it is only a synonym used in germany. Flaimo 23:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

"EC" and "Maestro" are not really the same. "EC" and "Girocard" is more or less the same. "Girocard" is the new standard for the "old" EC-Cards. Most EC-cards or Girocards does also have the Maestro Logo and the Maestro function. But there are also many Maestro-Cards without EC or Girocard function. Most EC oder Girocard accepting shops does not accept cards which have only the Maestro function. Therefore a further tag payment:girocard=* should be used for shops which accept EC or Girocard and not accept cards which have only The Maestro function. Freestyle1984 - 6 September 2011

charging stations

The tag payment:contractID=* isn't correct, it should be payment:ref. This means the number from the charging station, a contract number identifies the user who uses the charging station. And please, if you introduce a new tag without discussion, at least wearing a corresponding notice at the page charging station. User 5359 20:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

"contractID" is the name of a billing method. [1] Lulu-Ann

Wrong: German Zitat aus dem Dokument: "Zur Identifikation halten Sie bitte Ihre Contract-ID sowie Ihr Kennwort bereit. Zusätzlich geben Sie bitte die Ladepunktnummer an, welche sich seitlich an der Ladesäule rechts oberhalb der Steckdose befindet." English Quote from the document (Google translation): "For identification, please have your Contract ID and password ready. In addition, please provide the loading point number, which laterally at the charging station is right above the outlet." The correct term was payment:ladepunktnummer or payment:ref filled with the loading point number not payment:contractID (a contract number identifies the user who uses the charging station).

it's still wrong. if I interpret the PDF right, RWE charching stations only work for RWE customers. so "contractID" isn't a payment method, but rather an authentication method, since the payment is done later on by money transfer from your debit account or credit card. mapping those charging stations together with an operator tag should be enough. if it would be a generic charging station accepting different brands, then we would have to rethink the payment tags. so i will delete it from the list when I'm rewriting the wiki page. -- Flaimo 15:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

tolltag payments

I'd suggest we add payment:tag=operator1;operator2;.... as one of the payment options to the wiki page. Basically there are lanes, where you can use a tolltag on tollbridges. There are also car parks that will accept tolltags for payment and let you automatically in and out without getting a parking ticket. Marlow 13:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

if you mean something like e-zpass in the U.S. i would tag it payment:e_zpass:yes -- Flaimo 15:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

josm

The default value for josm is payment:telephon_cards (not ...card). User 5359 11:34, 16 July 2011 (BST)

josm presets are outdated. see http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6268 . if a phone accepts different kind of phone cards use: payment:telephone_card:<brand name> = yes/no --Flaimo 12:37, 16 July 2011 (BST)

credit cards issued by certain banks only

While tagging payment options on automated, unmanned fuel stations, I noticed a small text next to the logos of accepted credit cards: "only cards issued by a Finnish bank". (There's also payment:notes=yes.) How to tag? Alv 16:03, 6 September 2011 (BST)

This is a valid one in Brazil, several banks supports only their special credit or debit cards in their ATM's and some supports only Brazilian issued cards - EVEN IF ACCEPTING INTERNATIONAL SYSTEMS SUCH AS VISA, MC OR MAESTRO. I havn't ventured into tagging payment forms yet (maybe other than a few telephones if they accept prepaid cards or coins) --Skippern 17:05, 7 September 2011 (BST)