Why is the box form mixed with function in the same tag? Can't a "meter" post box be mounted in a wall or on a pillar? I don't know, probably few countries seperate boxes for stamped and metered mail.
Also notice the page links to the Proposal page, but that proposal was abandoned and never approved. So why was this page even created (or proposal promoter to proper page)? Aceman444 (talk) 23:52, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- I have the same issue with the meter type. It might be true that boxes for meter mail have one and only one specific shape in one region of the UK, but for an international project like OSM it is necessary to come up with more generic names. Meter is not a physical style. How should meter be translated into other languages, as "for meter mail" or as "big cubic box"? --holgermappt (talk) 20:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Well I for one map these as pillar post_box:design=* which specifically allows one to describe the many different designs of pillar boxes, but largely used for the distinctive Penfold octagonal pillars. There are almost certainly franked mail boxes set in the walls of some post offices in UK (the post box shown above may have replaced just such a wall box). Also note that all 4 values are in use in France (http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/keys/post_box%3Atype), where most post boxes will be lamp types. I have also used this tag IIRC in Spain & Argentina. SK53 (talk) 20:03, 24 October 2015 (UTC) ; there is another key
Making this work outside the UK
This tagging appears to have been created without much international input, and does not really work in the rest of the world. So how do we fix this? We can't have values like "pillar", "lamp", or "wall" be exclusive to the UK, because other countries and postal services also have post box types that are mounted at pillars or walls. But making postbox rendering dependent on the country the postbox is in is also not a good solution - not only does it put unnecessary burdens on renderers, there might also be, say, UK-style postboxes in continental Europe for vanity reasons. Considering all this, the only viable approach seems to be the use of country (or perhaps postal service) prefixes, e.g. UK:pillar, DE:pillar and so on. What do you think? --Tordanik 13:56, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think the key is designed to have a unique value for each size/shape/mount/aperture combination. Maybe even colour and material can be added. So there will be a large number of values if the whole world is considered. Why distinguish between UK:pillar and DE:pillar if they look the same? If they don't look the same, then they get different values. If a post box that looks like the UK pillar type is found in Germany, then it is still of type pillar, i.e. there is no need to prefix it with UK:. --holgermappt (talk) 17:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Of course, that's what I meant. It should not be about where the postbox is (as you said, a UK 'pillar' postbox does not change when you carry it from the UK to Germany). I probably did not express that clearly enough.
- I also agree that there should be a unique value for each style of post box. My question was about how we go about defining that large number of values, while still avoiding name conflicts. One of the easiest solution for avoiding name conflicts would be the aforementioned prefixes like "UK:" (again, those would not be about where the postbox is, but simply be part of the name for that postbox style). But that's not necessary if we just get creative with the new names, so I'm open to various solutions. --Tordanik 11:26, 23 December 2015 (UTC)