Talk:OpenStreetBugs

Contents 1 Wishlist 2 OSB + YOURS bugs 3 Comment box 4 Multiple domains 5 Feedback 6 Could you increase precisions of coordinates on OSB database? 7 Are all kinds of bugs allowed here? 8 OSB integ. into main site 9 Data imports to OSB by geocoder 10 Poor Protocol Design 11 License note 12 OSB Popup Issues 13 OSB 2.0?

Wishlist

I don't know where to put it, so I put my wish here:

• I'm missing visual time stamps for the comments - important (e. g. just to know how old the bug is; bugs depending on each other on the neighbourhood and comments depending on each other but aftwards it is not possible to know which comment was written at what time ...)

great tool anyway :-) -- Schusch 18:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

• • +1 from me for wishing for timestamps on the comments. Dmgroom 20:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• I'd like to be able to create a "Permalink" which opens an OSB-map of "my" area, to quickly access the local bug reports. Kig8472 13:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • there is a permalink-link. Hadhuey

Great tool, but i have three wishes:

• The user must add a nickname to generate the bug (most bugs have "NoName")
• Add languages to the site (many people dont speak english)
• Show the date, when the bug was generated.

Hadhuey 17:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

On nicknames. Forcing users to specify a nickname isn't effective. On our Traffic Calming site we've tried to enforce the nickname entry. That ended up in users entering nonsense like "noname", "blahblah" etc. --Andrew Shadoura 17:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

• Under the heading "Current view" in the left pane it would be nice to have an link to potlatch, similiar to the one found when viewing a bug.

Jetthe 11:19, 23 October 2009

• In the old interface, simply entering the bug text and Enter would submit the bug. In the new one, I have to press Tab twice before the Enter. Is it possible to have Enter submit the bug, as before? --tms13 11:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• I'd love it if there was a daily (or weekly) dump of GPX by country (or continent, or even of the whole planet; it's easy to extract the relevant area) as this would be much more convenient than the SQL dump for converting to Garmin POIs. The GPX download from the map page is too small an area to be useful for my mapping habits. --tms13 11:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• Any chance of being able to search for bugs by nickname? I've entered quite a lot, and sometimes the comments received can help me to fix the map. Also, sometimes bugs are fixed but the OSB record is not closed - I'd be able to find which of mine are no longer applicable and so close them. --tms13 11:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• I would like to see a print option. Some way to print the current area but change the red dots to numbers and then on a second sheet print the numbers and their comments. Would make it easier when chasing bugs I think.

• I think it is not good if every body can close a bug anonymous. Would it be possible to allow this only OSM Users? --Viw 11:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

OSB + YOURS bugs

Is it possible to combine OSB with this, pleae dicsuss there: Talk:YOURS/weird_routes#YOURS_.2B_Openstreetbugs

Comment box

Probably missing something simple here but how do you close the comment box after adding a note? at moment hover over for new details doesn't work again after clicking into a point until i reload the page. --Farrpau 09:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I must be missing it too. After clicking on a red cross in circle symbol I cannot find a way of cancelling the comment box. One of the versions allows me to cancel only by removing the report after a week, which I don't want to do. Chrismorl 10:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Click on the marker ("cross in circle symbol") again and the comment box will close. In the new interface you can also click the "No" or "Cancel" button. --emka 22:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

In the appspot interface there is no "No" button and "Cancel" does not close the dialog. In both interfaces, if you present a menu of choices, it should always include a "I don't want any of these and would rather not be here" option (usually Cancel), especially when the target user is inexperienced. Chrismorl 10:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Appspot is not the new interface and will probably be shut down soon (what about IE6?). I think the "No"/"Cancel" button in the bubble (new interface!) is exactly what you described. --emka 10:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to reply again, but in the schokokeks.org interface and Firefox/Windows XP I do not see a No/Cancel choice, only "Add comment" "Edit in Potlatch" "JOSM" "Mark as Fixed". Also the JOSM choice does not work and I suspect needs a system with a particular configuration. Chrismorl 11:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, now I know what you mean. The choices only appear after you select comment or close, which I usually select after fixing a popup bubble. The usual option for closing the bubble is not working as it should and is therefore disabled. The client is currently rewritten, see "Developent" on the OSB wiki page. The JOSM option works if you have JOSM running and the JOSM remote plugin installed. All usability issues you pointed out are valid though, but I can not solve them. --emka 12:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Multiple domains

What is the relation between <http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/> , <http://www.openstreetbugs.org/> and <http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/> ? Should they reflect the same data or is one outdated?

openstreetbugs.org and openstreetbugs.de belong to two different persons (User:Firefishy and User:...) who redirect to openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org which belongs to Schokokeks.org Hosting and is currently administered by User:emka. openstreetbugs.appspot.com is a Google Appspot domain, it is administered by User:Xav who had the idea for OSB and wrote the first implementation which is also the basis of the second implementation currently running on schokokeks.org. The Appspot version contains less and outdated data because the synchronisation happens only in one direction. My personal opinion is that the Appspot version should be shut down and Xav may continue working on the new implementation (which could be installed anywhere, hopefully on the main OSM servers in future). Any questions? ;) --emka 17:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Currently Xavier's older version at openstreetbugs.appspot.com is ranking top when you google "OpenStreetBugs" which has confused me on a number of occasions. The map javascript seems to be broken on there. This really isn't very good for end users.

What is User:Xav's opinion on this? Is he happy to continue development on the github OpenStreetBugs code? Does he recognise that the service he is running is an older obsolete version?

-- Harry Wood 12:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Feedback

It is still important that these users understand the license restrictions, and do not generate their bugs by comparing with google maps.

Rather than enforcing licence conditions, can I suggest that contributions to OpenStreetBugs are not treated as CCbySA, but just as facts that need to be verified which will allow comments to be made in relation to any data source. The requirement will then be on the OSM contributor to check the facts (which they should do anyway), othersiwe we are accepting anonymous contributions by the back door again. The 'tickets' should indicate where their information came from, was it based on personal observation, or on another datasource or map? Can I also suggest that it is possible to see rejected tickets so that if a problem is reported based on an data source that is actually wrong that we can avoid repeated reports of the same non-issue.PeterIto 11:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you increase precisions of coordinates on OSB database?

A user in Japan reported me that bug markers always shift about 50 meters west or east after submitting it. It does not depend on Browsers. From a sources, create-database.sql, OSB deals longitudes and latitudes as float value. Obviously, significant figures of them are small for areas of which longitude is over 100 degrees. The significant figure of float type is 6 digits, which means that the minimum unit of latitude is 0.001 degrees (about 100 m) in areas over 100 degree. It is useless to point a map feature. Could you increase precisions of latitude and longitude on database, to double type or int(10) type? --Nazotoko 04:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. --emka 21:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Are all kinds of bugs allowed here?

I compared the list of McDonalds restaurants in Germany from the website with the mapped amenity=fast_food. So I found out that 227 from more that 1300 are missing and I wrote notes for each in OSB. Now there are still 160 missing. Many users of OSB mapped the ones too far away from my home. But at least one is removing them (mark as solved) with a comment like: "I don't like McDonalds." or "Map it yourself if you like it.". Is it commen in OSB to delete someones work? Is it not allowed to mark missing restaurants? --Wieland 20:43, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

That kind of attitude is unhelpful, IMO - nobody is obliged to address the issues you raise on OSB, and they could better use the time spent making such remarks to address the bugs they do want to fix. But OTOH, OpenStreetBugs is anonymous, so I guess there's no way to police it.--tms13 23:47, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

OSB integ. into main site

That integration of OpenStreetBugs into the view tab of the main openstreetmap site seemed promising. It could at least make anyone (even anonymous users to) add something to the map. Like the passerbys on the proprietary wikimapia/google. logictheo 11:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Data imports to OSB by geocoder

There is a large variety of possible data sources, where only address information is available, but no coordinates (e.g. the international list of wheelchair toilets with centralkey=eurokey, "Der Locus".)

Is there a method to put these addresses through a geocoder and drop OSBugs on the map?

Or do we have to put them into OSM with a fixme=* ?

--Lulu-Ann 15:05, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Sounds quite similar to what shaun did with Bike Shop Locator. He's running that as a separate site rather than dropping OpenStreetBugs. Also I'm not sure if you'll find any code for doing the actual batch geo-code. That would be done beforehand (or I think maybe the dataset was handed to Shaun with approx lat/lons provided) At generic tool take in data and set up markers to present to OSMers somehow... would be neat -- Harry Wood 17:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Poor Protocol Design

I don't know where else to discuss this... I've recently implemented OpenStreetBugs support in Vespucci, and noticed on many occasions that bugs added to OSB were being duplicated. I initially thought it was me, but HTTP proxy logs and even Wireshark packet captures only showed the bugs being submitted once. Sometimes the duplicates were submitted many minutes after the bug was originally posted.

The only thing I can think of is my antivirus - Trend Micro Internet Security Pro 2010. I can't prove it since I can't see OSB server logs, but I suspect their computers are checking the sites I surf to, and effectively submitting the bug URL again.

This is a problem due to OSBs use of GET requests - these should not have any side effects, such as updating databases! They should be read-only operations. GET requests should never have been abused for this purpose in the first place.

While I can applaud the simplicity and ease of implementation of the current protocol, IMO it should be revised to require HTTP POST requests to alter the database, i.e. the add/edit/close operations. Andrew 14:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I think the Potlatch developers were also saying the existing OpenStreetBugs API is a bit pants. Certainly GET requests to add bugs, seems like a bad idea. I would guess the new (integrated in the Rails Port) codebase also includes a re-thinking of the API. -- Harry Wood 17:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

License note

Why does "CC BY-SA" in the left column links to Version 3? Afaik OSM is under Version 2?! May we should mention ODbL too? --BBO 21:55, 22 June 2011 (BST)

Quoting CC-BY-SA 2.0:

You may distribute [...] a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or [...]

Derivative works can be licensed under a later version. I think OSB can remain licensed CC-BY-SA when OSM data is ODbL. Relicensing would not be applicable anyway. --emka 22:19, 22 June 2011 (BST)

OSB Popup Issues

Hi there, since the last update of OpenLayers the popup bubbles are no more included in the package, so OSB is currently broken. Might anybody please fix this great service? --!i! 02:31, 28 September 2011 (BST)

the coder is still on vacation and informed about this issue. I am sure that he will fix it soon :-) --Mmertens 19:16, 28 September 2011 (BST)

OSB 2.0?

Hi, even if I'm realy excited on the current OSB, there might be the need for a huge update or rewrite. Just some ideas:

• support for third party Apps to add useful comments (better than Mapdust does.
• channel back to the reporters of a bug (required for third party bugs via API)
• marking lines (e.g. for maxspeed bugs)
• upload multimedia hints (voice, images, gps track segments, suggested routing tracks)
• categories that can be chosen later by the editors working the bugs (maybee "needs check on ground", "not interesting for OSM", "problem of your App")
• ...

So might it be possible to add some of this to OSB?