Talk:Proposed features/isolated dwelling
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- in Slovakia we have lot of these "smaler than hamlet" places mostly deeper in the mountains, I like this proposal --didoa 23:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- In Eastern Europe this is a must. And no, it is not hamlet, because one household is *not* hamlet. Seconded. Pecisk 13:21 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Why aren't they hamlets? If they are two buildings or less (one) and you don't want to call it a hamlet, then you can draw the individual building.
- Why not using place=locality ? --Pieren 08:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
- too general for describing these 2-3 buldings, in Slovakia their name is derived from the name of a family that lives there, it is not a locality, not some area with name, not a farm, just a few building with name mainly displayed on detailed tourist maps --didoa 18:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- not locality because it is neither well defined, nor for inhabited places. It is a generic placeholder, whilst isolated_dwelling is a scientific term for very small settlements. Of course you can draw single buildings and I encourage you to do so, but place is about inhabited places / settlements, so it is orthogonal to buildings and such. -- Dieterdreist 18:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Will there be an ambiguity/grey area between an "isolated dwelling" and a named building/farm/house? I was recently in France and noticed in some areas that many of the houses apparently had names (with signs in the street pointing to them). Imagine you had a house called "Green Gables" within a hamlet. You'd tag it one way (perhaps "building=yes name=Green Gables". But if it wasn't in a hamlet, you'd be tempted to tag it "location=isolated_dwelling name=Green Gables". I'm probably not making sense, but just seeing a potential issue in tagging the same concept differently depending on context. Stevage 04:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
why not place=farm?
- what about place=farm? I prefer place=isolated_dwelling to place=farm since it is more general. Will isolated_dwelling obsolete farm?
- yes, IMHO it will obsolete place=farm, as you point out: it is more generic. For farms there is already building=farm and landuse=farm, that could be used together with place=isolated_dwelling to point out it is a farm. -- Dieterdreist 02:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- examples for place=isolated_dwelling that are not farms are mills, forester's houses, small isolated trainstations, restaurants. Of course most isolated dwellings are indeed farms. -- Dieterdreist 04:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)