Talk:Proposed features/tunnel:adr category

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Avoid acronyms and abbreviations

Avoid abbreviations in OSM tags, please. A tag shall be self explanatory and ADR is not explicite and confusing with the 'addr' namespace. --Pieren 12:56, 16 May 2011 (BST)

ADR is a widely-known abbreviation within the transport industry. It's a shame it looks a bit like "addr" but there's not much I can do about that. The full version of the name (the origin of the abbreviation) is "Accord européen relatif au transport international des marchandises dangereuses par route" - now you can see why the abbreviation is used! --Csmale 19:46, 16 May 2011 (BST)

Then why not hazard:ADR_category=B/C/D/E ? Something telling the non transport industry experts (majority of contributors) that this tag is about hazardous material ? -Pieren 09:37, 17 May 2011 (BST)
These are closely related to hazmat=*, so hazmat:ADR_category=*? There seems to be a mention of the tunnel categories from a year ago at Talk:Key:hazmat. Alv 06:37, 18 May 2011 (BST)

I am happy with that as well. I will change the proposal to hazmat:adr_tunnel_category - I hope most people will be happy with this. --Csmale 21:47, 24 May 2011 (BST)

Only tunnel ?

ADR restrictions could be applied on railways, waterways and any road, everywhere there's a potential hazard, not only tunnels. You can read this on ADR page on UNECE website. The tag may be changed to be compatible with all ways. --Dri60 18:55, 16 May 2011 (BST)

As far as transport infrastructure is concerned, only tunnels are classified on a defined scale. AFAIK there is no equivalent classification system for railways, waterways or other roads (if there is, please let me know!). The main part of the ADR regulations is about classifying the load, not about the requirements for the transport infrastructure. --Csmale 19:54, 16 May 2011 (BST)

Well, in fact ADR apply only on roads, the mistake is that in France, the "TMD" decree, based on ADR recommendations, is applied on all sort of ways. Similar proposals can be created, there's European legislation for others transports (Part "RID" in the OTIF for trains, ADN for waterways, and probably others). --Dri60 13:35, 18 May 2011 (BST)

I am interested here in classifying the infrastructure, and not the goods or the vehicles. ADR has a classification system for certain parts of the road infrastructure (namely tunnels). If RID has a system for classifying (parts of) the rail infrastructure, so you can say something like "this section of track has RID classification X3", then that can be tagged as well if we like. --Csmale 21:45, 24 May 2011 (BST)