Talk:Tag:amenity=university
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Central campus vs. geographically scattered campuses: use relations to aggregate?
This should really be used for relations (assembly of buildings, sometimes scattered across town) too. Ipofanes 20:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- How do you suggest we go about this? Representing the entire (fluid, externally changeable, non-physical) political hierarchy of a university isn't something we want to do in OSM, but as a first approximation it might be good to represent distinct university sites, campuses, colleges, halls of residence, and sports grounds in such a relation. Somehow. Each of the above could be a sprawling mess of buildings too, so it's very likely that any schema we come up with would be an (over-)complex affair. --achadwick 11:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
related to this I've written a bunch of 'how to map' information on the page here. I was mainly thinking about individual buildings, and stating that we should (probably) be following the One feature, one OSM element principle (so not putting the university tag on the buildings). But yes. "Scattered campuses" present a problem which might require relations or something. -- Harry Wood 14:41, 19 May 2011 (BST)
Halls of residence
Am I right in thinking halls of residence use this tag? --LeedsTracker 02:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- For non-collegiate universities maybe landuse=residential combined with residential=university to distinguish it from other types of residential area would be appropriate. --achadwick 11:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Update as of May 2011: not many people do the above. I may be the only one... there is however some discussion happening at Talk:Tag:landuse=residential --achadwick 15:23, 19 May 2011 (BST)
To clarify further and try and provide some useful criteria for making a distinction: landuse=* sometimes applies better than amenity=university, particularly when the housing provision is outsourced to a separate company and the blocks aren't really part of the university itself. Tag the enclosing area with amenity=university when there's teaching, research, student union activity, university sports or pastoral care going on as well as housing, and leave it to landuse=residential if it's just a residential block in part of a city, I suppose. Either way, individual halls within the area should get their own 
building=* in order to retain One feature, one OSM element. --achadwick 15:23, 19 May 2011 (BST)
Rendering on Mapnik
The amenity=university tag does not render as a shaded area on Mapnik as it does as a college. One example is Rowan University in Glassboro, New Jersey, which was rendered as a path rather than a closed polygon whose name was posted along the adjacent railway. CrystalWalrein 02:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- I know this response is a bit late and the issue may be moot, but is the way closed? Are you sure? I had a similar issue a while ago, and it turned out that someone had broken the way and it was no longer closed. Yet, since the gap was so small, and streets overlapped most of the border, it was difficult to detect the problem. Vid the Kid 20:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Conflict to landuse in some areas
amenity=university has been used for areas around buldings that belong to a university. But on the same area there are other buildings that do not belong to the university. Therefore I would tag the area as landuse=*, because the areas should be more a description of what kind of buildings and vegetation can be found there. What do you think?
The idea of my question is that university buildings can either be of an industrial kind, or integrated in the town, therefore there is no sense for areas around buildings (campusses) to be mapped as amenity=university, it might be useful to define a new campus tag or something if you want to tag a strict campus university which is not always the case.
Another feature I am currently trying is to integrate universit buildings to campus relations, the question is: Can realtions be member of other relations?
Would be great to hear your statements and ideas about this questions. TobiBS 13:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
classification of universities
As proposed for schools (see: Talk:Tag:amenity=school) I would also recommend here the ISCED classification for classifying the highest level of education attainable from a tertiary establishment. What do you think? --ALE! 21:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Collegiate universities
It make sense to me to represent collegiate universities like Oxford or Cambridge like this: represent any central or teaching/lab bits that don't belong to colleges as described on the main page, and name the colleges individually. The operator=* tag names the university the colleges belong to. Hopefully that's not too horrible a misuse of the operator tag.
A similar scheme could be applied to spread-out non-collegiate universities with multiple campuses or regional centres. Does OSM need to make a distinction? Should we go ahead and integrate it into the main page? --achadwick 13:24, 18 May 2011 (BST)
- Ah yes. colleges should get the name tag. Makes sense to me.
- It would be great if renderers would show the name of the university when you're quite zoomed out in these cases, but we wont be seeing this feature for some time. I can't think of a tagging scheme that would even hypothetically help that to happen. If a renderer really knew what was going on, it could pull out the operator from the scheme you suggest, so it's a good a scheme as any I suppose.
- -- Harry Wood 14:35, 19 May 2011 (BST)
