Talk:Tag:landuse=forest
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No layer
"layer" is a relative tag. Forest is a standalone tag, it does not use any "layer". --Markus 10:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
No natural=*
This is only for virgin forrest (natural=wood). --Markus 21:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
wood=*
The classification of wood types cannot be a mixture from different types of distinctions. Either it's evergreen vs decidious or broadleaf vs coniferous, not decidious vs coniferous. It's like dividing vehicles into four-wheeled or red. It's not making much sense.
"Forests can be classified in different ways and to different degrees of specificity. One such way is in terms of the "biome" in which they exist, combined with leaf longevity of the dominant species (whether they are evergreen or deciduous). Another distinction is whether the forests composed predominantly of broadleaf trees, coniferous (needle-leaved) trees, or mixed." -- Wikipedia:forest
--Bengibollen 20:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree. For instance, Larch can be both coniferus and decidious (its pine needles fall off in winter) and alternatively Holly trees are broad leafed but are evergreen. I have updated the page using:
type=broad_leafed/coniferous/palm/mix taken from the natural=tree page wood=decideous/evergreen/shrubs/mixed --Hawkeyes 19:50, 2 June 2011
- Please avoid using type=* (for just about anything). A way with landuse=forest (or, rather, natural=wood) can have other tags which could (but shouldn't, either) also make use of type - and you'd have a conflict. The convention has always been to use descriptive keys wood=coniferous, and, say, leaves=evergreen/deciduous/... Anyway such drastic changes should go through the tagging mailing list at minimum. Current tagging is not like that. Alv 08:20, 3 June 2011 (BST)
- maybe foliage=broadleaf/coniferous and foliage_persistence=deciduous/evergreen? --Ulf Mehlig 19:12, 3 May 2012 (BST)
year chopped
Where known - i.e. just saw the logs by the road with a clearcutting area visible - I'm starting to use clearcut_year=2008. For non-clearcutting areas but with present significant chopping activity chop_year=*. Alv 17:41, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
woodland option
To make a more clear distinction from natural=wood or landuse=forest: Perhaps using the term [wikipedia:woodland] would be appropriate, as it a land area covered in trees with a specific purpose. Where as a 'protected area' or '[wikipedia:nature conservation] or [wiki:old growth forest] is also more specific.
Also, the term [wikipedia:woodlot] is the American equivalent for British woodland. Where the area can be subdivided for logging.
To further clearly define the use of the area, adding the operator|* and name|* should avoid confusion, as this is more precise. --acrosscanadatrails 01:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
"Coto de caza"
In Spain there are enclosure of natural wood that owners have permission for hunting animals. These areas are named "Coto de caza" (Hunting enclosures?). Most of this areas are mantained (owners clean the streams of dead wood, etc.). So I think it's landuse=forest, isn't?
Thanks,--Xan 15:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Typo "broad_leafed"?
Copied from natural=tree discussion:
I would assume that the value should be broad_leaved, see e.g. wikipedia:Broad-leaved_tree, but I'm not a native speaker. Is this a typo or intentional? --Tordanik 03:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Broad-leafed is sometimes seen, but it is not correct, it should be broad-leaved. It is probably misapplied from the word 'leafed', which is correctly found with a different meaning, as in I leafed through the book. Indigomc 22:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. This leaves us with the question what we should do about it. Unfortunately, that value has been added to the data a few ten thousand times, for example by the tree import in Girona. Simply fix the wiki page and add a note about the fact that there are lots of misspelled tags in the database? Ask the tagging mailing list? --Tordanik 23:25, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'd say to fix the wiki page. I did think about doing this last night, but thought I'd wait to see what other opinions were. Actually I would also look to change it wholesale in the data if such a thing is possible.
- However, having done some google searches, it seems that there is a still a lot of use of 'broad-leafed'; about 100000 returns, compared with about 500000 for 'broad-leaved'. It might therefore be said that it is an accepted alternative form. I would still say it is incorrect.
- Indigomc 11:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed to broad_leaved - going to create a page for this soon as well as coniferus and palm and mixed etc and try to get a bit more guidance together. I'll add information about this discussion and change so any using the data will know to look for broad_leafed as well. Hawkeyes 13:12, 17 October 2011
Forest icon
Forest icon is a pine tree at higher zoom - this probably doesn't best represent all the types of landuse=forest e.g. broad-leaved plantation, palm plantation, rubber tree plantation etc. Suggest a plain green rendering without pine tree at higher zoom levels?
ITO map for wood tags
I have asked Ito maps to produce a map showing landuse=forest, natural=wood, wood= tagged areas etc. Please chip into the discussion here:
