Talk:Tag:leisure=slipway

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Way as a node?

The slipWAY is by definition a way not a node. Besides to make the Osmarender icon happy, why just tag the end node? --Hamish 10:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

You are right. I changed the page to way. --Markus 10:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
The whole point of a "discussion page" is that the matter is disccussed and a consensus is reached. This needs to happen before changing a long-standing convention (>4 years). Please revert your change to the main wiki page until such time, thanks. (if you don't, I will). If you want to do something about changing it, the first thing that has to happen is that the change be put up as a proposal. --Hamish 11:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
The "be bold" principle of wiki editing also applies. It's good to discuss stuff first if it's a major change. It may be even be *so* major that we'd want to go through a tedious voting process (unlikely!) How major a wiki page change is, can be debated of course. But I think this change is quite minor, and ...you discussed it. -- Harry Wood 12:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
JOSM presets only allow slipway to be applied to a node. Seems a consensus is needed so that the element page and JOSM agree. Dahc 19:45, 30 June 2011 (BST)

The current insistence of this wiki page that thus must be a node seems illogical to me (and therefore not how I am mapping things in OSM). I propose that we change leisure=slipway to be normally mapped as a way. However other taggings may be appropriate in some circumstances: area (e.g. on particularly wide slipways) or node (e.g. where the details are not known/mappable). --Fluteflute 09:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

So the page now says node/way.
I noticed recently that JOSM validator complained about my slipway way, which seemed odd. It needs syncing with this change I guess.
node/way/area labels on the wiki have become something of an irrelevance over the years as people have stepped forward to argue that any tag could be mapped as a node way or area. Does nobody want to argue that a slipway could also be an area? only a matter of time.
-- Harry Wood 12:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Why leisure?

Many slipways, especially the vehicle=no track + winch and Travel-lift kind are at commercial shipyards and not recreational. So is leisure=* really appropriate for all of them? --Hamish 10:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

"leisure" is old stuff from old OSM history.
I prefer this:
harbour=slipway
+ harbour:slipway:type=*         ( manually | by car | cable winch | crane )
+ harbour:slipway:maxload=##,#   (tons)
--Markus 10:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm completely oblivious but isn't width important? I mean a kayak have a bit different needs than an ocean liner. --grin 06:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC)