Talk:Tag:shop=alcohol

Discuss Tag:shop=alcohol

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UK "off-licenses"

Seems to be an inconsistency in the description here. UK "off-licenses" are just independent shops with a license to sell alcohol for consumption off the premises. Pubs have "on-licenses", a license granted to sell alcohol on the premises. Thus UK "off-licenses" do not fall in the category proposed for this tag.

I'm not sure that a specific tag is required for state liquor shops in jurisdictions where these have a monopoly, unless they have a restricted monopoly, for instance in selling drinks over 20% alcohol content. It may be possible to extend shop=beverages through adding an operator tag, or otherwise denoting restrictions as to which alcoholic drinks are permitted to be sold. SK53 14:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

"off-licenses do not fall in the category proposed for this tag" I'm confused. What do you mean category proposed ? Reading the description at the top of this page, UK off licenses are covered by this. They are government licensed to sell for consumption off the premises as you say.

As I asked here, why are there two different tags anyway?

-- Harry Wood 10:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Rendering

Is it possible to render this tag in some way? It would be very useful in countries that have alcohol monopolies. That way this is the only way to find shops that sell alcohol through OSM. My suggestion is to render it kind of like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piersi%C3%B3wka_ubt.jpeg /Grillo 19:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

A few months back there was a bunch of new shop types added to the standard tile layer rendering. example -- Harry Wood (talk) 00:32, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Type of alcohol

It could be useful to have a key to indicate what products the shop specialises in, if any. For example, some shops sell mostly just wine. Danrok (talk) 20:58, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I've just added a Tag:shop=alcohol#Tags to use in combination section which gives two different approaches in use.

• There's the suggestion of a drink=* (i.e. drink:wine=yes)
• and then (one which I instinctively used on a few occasions) alcohol=wine.

I think I prefer either of those approaches, to the newly added shop=wine , which should be encompassed by this shop=alcohol tag I think. see Talk:Tag:shop=wine

-- Harry Wood (talk) 00:20, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

drink:wine=yes VS alcohol=wine

the wiki page still proposes both options (but there is actually no page created for alcohol=wine).
It may be time to decide which one to keep as it is redundant tag !
I personnaly push for drink:*=* which is more versatile.
--Hellopierre (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you we should keep the option Tag:shop=alcohol + sub-key drink:*=*, to indicate which type of alcohol is selled : wine, beer, whisky.. In order to avoid multiplying the tag (shop=wine; alcohol=wine...)

There is still 968 entries on taginfo for alcohol=wine, and 6780 entries for shop=wine, we should clearly discouraging the use of those tag.

If the wiki is clearer it will be easier for user to choose the right tag.

And maybe suggest to add a drink:wine=only for shop that propose only wines; drink:beer=only for shop that propose only beers

Kazing (talk) 11:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

What would you prefer
drink:wine=yes as it stands on the English page, or
drink:wine=retail as it stands on the German page?--geozeisig (talk) 11:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

I think drink:wine=retail doesn't make sense, shop=alcohol imply "retail" and amenity=bar imply "served". We should stick with the classic values drink:wine=yes or drink:wine=only Kazing (talk) 09:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

On the English page Key:drink I interpret it so that instead of drink:wine=retail

drink:wine=bottled must be used. Or is it better to use shop=alcohol + drink:wine=yes for a wine trade? Can you update the page so one can see which values to use now.--geozeisig (talk) 15:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Natural wine

I would like to submit a tag for natural wine reseller (or anything about), I have 2 suggestions :

• drink:natural_wine=yes, new subkey creation
• drink:wine=yes + organic=only, no subkey creation but organic key is not linked to wine subkey. This may create misunderstanding

--Hellopierre (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2017 (UTC)