Talk:Track drawing websites

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merge

!i! suggested to merge. Well, yes, in principle. But the columns vary. This list provides more specialized detail. --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 13:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

First, Maps is just a redirect, so not very useful to give that as the target for the merge. Second, it points to List of OSM based Services which is already a massive mess of lists, with all sorts of different things. I don't think it would be helpful to expand it any more. I think this list is more useful as a separate page, which can be given as an answer to specific questions etc. --Vclaw (talk) 12:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
I think I agree that merge idea should be rejected. But most of all I agree that the merge label pointing to a redirect is not very useful. I think I'll just remove the merge label now, but if somebody wants to put it back as {{merge|List of OSM-based services}} that would be a sensible starting point for further discussion. -- Harry Wood (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

There is also overlap with Routing/online_routers. In theory there may be track-drawing websites which don't also do routing, but most allow you to mix and match to allow routing (because it's faster) but also to override and hand-draw when necessary. Monxton (talk) 10:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hm... "In theory"? The opposite is visible in the list: most do not support routing. --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 13:49, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
One of the main uses for these websites is for viewing/sharing tracks recorded on GPS devices. eg if I go out on for a walk, I want to upload that track and view it on a map to see where I went, plus share the map with others. So no need for any routing features. Actually drawing a new route from scratch is a somewhat different use, maybe that could be a separate section on this page? But there is some overlap, as you might want to upload a GPS track, then edit it or crop or extend it, to create a new route. --Vclaw (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
This may be an issue of nomenclature - quite likely as the same words get overloaded differently all the time in this area. However all of those in your list with which I am familiar: GPSies, BikeRouteToaster, BikeHike, RideWithGPS can be used to create a route semi-automatically. They don't only draw the points you specify. I think the most common use-case for these is to use their router but to override its decisions and hand-draw points where necessary.
Yes, there is also a class of website which is more of a repository for viewing / sharing recorded tracks - for example Everytrail could be added to this list. But not all the websites you list do this - for example BikeHike cannot be used for sharing tracks. I think a better taxonomy is needed if we are to rationalise the wiki pages on all these closely-related topics. FWIW I don't support the merge as proposed, but I am troubled by proliferating wiki pages containing overlapping information. Monxton (talk) 16:25, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh, that is interesting. I did understand "track drawing" mostly in the way that you can manually draw a track but not necessarily upload a gpx track to be visualized. Yes, according to the text and tables columns on this page it tries to be both. --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 23:36, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Gmaps Pedometer probably does not use OSM data

Looking at Gmaps Pedometer about page http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/gp/about, it seems they actually use Google maps and it can't be changed to OSM data. Does this website fit into that wiki?

Hmm, this about page says "Features have included: an Openstreetmap overlay". It uses the google maps toolkit, yes. But you can switch to OSM or "Opencycle" (which is based on OSM data). Although the "OSM" does not work for me currently (my be my browser setup) but OpenCycle works. It does really not for you? --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 14:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Drawing or sharing?

The table does not distinguish between websites that allow the user to draw a route as opposed to track sharing websites. --Cordialement, gerdami 08:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

I would add a new column "sharing" then. Drawing sites quite often also allow to "share". --Aseerel4c26 (talk) 23:58, 11 August 2014 (UTC)