User talk:Gravitystorm

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Contents 1 Good to meet you 2 Cyclemap Howto 3 Cyclemap bug reports 4 Update frequency of the cyclemap rendered tiles 5 Postal code tasks 6 public_transport Keys and TransportMap

Good to meet you

Hi there Andy. Good to meet you. I'm figuring out the usernames of people I met on Friday.

Just took another look at your cycle maps. I don't use a bike, but I'm loving the pubs at higher zoom levels!

Maybe we'll cross paths next time I'm drinking at IC union. Tuesday 8th Jan or some other Tuesday canoe club pool session night

-- Harry Wood 11:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Cyclemap Howto

Hi Andy. I was wondering if (when you have the time) you might work up an article explaining your entire cyclemaps workflow. I'd like to be able to re-create your results. The new contour lines are very, very nice. Unfortunately, we don't measure things in meters over here in the US, so I'd like to be able to render my own tiles in feet. -- bonius

Sure, will do. It changes quite frequently though so I'm trying to get to a position where all the code is cleaned up and available rather than just explanations - but the explanations will be useful too and probably quicker to sort out. I'll see what I can do. Gravitystorm 17:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Cyclemap bug reports

Please be aware of trac.openstreetmap.org - things can be posted there with component as cyclemap

• There's something weird going on with the coastline around south Skye - see this region where the sense of it is inverted. --Tms13 19:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
• I'm not sure how often the coastline is updated, but there's a region around Lochcarron where you need to pull in a newer version of the coast. --Tms13 19:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed this a while ago Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• In Germany many highways/streets are tagged with cycleway=track or cycleway=lane. Can you highlight these streets in your cyclemap? --Laufstar1 18:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

cycleway=lane is already rendered on Andy's map. E.g. see the blue edge to Sturry Road here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.28688&lon=1.09226&zoom=17&layers=00B0FTF

--Gregoryw 19:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes the cycleway=lane works fine, but also here in Denmark, there are a lot of streets tagged (correctly) with cycleway=track with nice bike paths seperated with a curb or sometimes trees and grass. They are not rendered as bike paths in Opencyclemap.

--Opspin 10:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

See http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1283 Gravitystorm 12:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hello Andy, there is a water rendering problem at this location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.2176&lon=8.8401&zoom=13&layers=00B0FTF . All other OSM renderers do render the water correctly. (BTW: Thanks for the cycle map) --ZorkNika 22:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Probably http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1656 Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Andy, first of all: thanks for this map type also from my side. CycleMap does not render landuse=forest, natural=wood ist rendered well. We're eliminating natural=wood here in Germany (common sense is that we nearly have no unmanaged areas with wood here). Also highway=path is not rendered at all. Could this be made possible? --ToniE 12:16, 03 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll look into this - if someone files a trac ticket that would be great Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• I think most people imagine the map of a country divided by the motorways, so they get a general idea of where they are by looking what motorways are near them. Especially cyclists also use mountains and rivers to navigate, mainly because there are cycle paths without hills along rivers often. It would be great if rivers were highlighted a bit more in the CycleMap in low zoom levels, maybe like motorways, only in blue (mountains and motorways are visible very well). --Candid Dauth 20:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Will think about this, not certain how well it would work

• It would be great to see super-relation support in the cycle map, this includes: 1. Adding the ref of a relation to the refs of all of its member relations. 2. Increasing the network tag of any member relations if necessary (the members of a ncn relation should become ncn if they are rcn or lcn). By this we could more easily reuse segments that are part of multiple ways. --Candid Dauth 20:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Not really a high priority for me, but feel free to put a ticket in. Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Are there any plans to support highway=path? In my place (Cologne, Germany) combined foot- and cycleways are very common and they are usually tagged as highway=path. Because of this, a significant amount of cycleways is missing on your map. If those ways are member of a cycle route, only the blue "halo" is rendered (example: http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=17&lat=50.92829&lon=6.99868&layers=B000) Astoreg 19:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

See http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1716 Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Andy, thanks for you for map. I have many enhancement for rendering: thanks! hanoj 19:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
  • add cycleway=track with highway=*;
  • add highway=path like mapnik;
  • add natural=cliff like mapnik;
  • add railway=halt like mapnik (cycle often go by train),
  • add highway=construction like mapnik;
  • add highway=track with tracktype=* like mapnik;
  • add highway=pedestrian with area=yes like mapnik;
  • add railway=tram with highway=tertiary or highway=resindetial or highway=pedestrian like mapnik;
  • bug railway=tram with highway=secondary or highway=primary discontinued part in someone nodes like mapnik;

Thanks for the suggestions Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Andy. While we're talking about rendering changes, I would like to see amenity=place_of_worship removed from the cycle map tiles. In some areas, the density of these churches and such tend to drown out the POIs that are actually relevant to cyclers, so I think it is a distraction from the otherwise beautiful cycle map. (example: http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=15&lat=29.9631&lon=-90.05489&layers=B000 this area contains quite a few bike-relevant POIs but I think the map is still dominated by the churches) Thanks! Matt Toups 16:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I might be able to come up with a better way of doing them, but I'd still like to keep them since they are often useful for getting your bearings. Gravitystorm 16:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

One quick compromise might be to just remove them from the lower zoom levels (z15) but leave them in for the higher zoom levels, where they're less likely to overlap with other cyclemap POIs. Also perhaps represent them with a different graphic, without quite so much contrast. Matt Toups 02:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Andy. Thanks for enhanced rendering (highway=path as footway and bicycle=* without "no" as cycleway). Now render map also bicycle=permissive as cycleway. I think, than permissive is is more like render as "no". Is possible change it render feature permissive ? Thanks hanoj 08:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

"Permissive" means you are allowed to cycle there. "Yes" means you are allowed to cycle there. "No" means you are *not* allowed to cycle there. Why would "permissive" look the same as "no"? Gravitystorm 11:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

bicycle=yes or highway=cycleway is strong bicycle way with explicit sing and designed way for bicycle, bicycle highway. I think permissive as tag, than have no reflected in traffic sings and that is set in primary foot/vehicle highway. wiki: permissive means there is no legally-enshrined right of access, but the landowner has allowed it at his/her discretion. So if we have in map symbol interval <true--false> for <"bicycle highway"--"other way">, permissive if in mi might other way; silent, no-capacity, local way. Permissive tag is attitudinal, prior IMHO for routing. hanoj 20:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Update frequency of the cyclemap rendered tiles

I would like to know what the update frequency is for the rendered tiles available on the opencyclemap.org site. The reason I ask is that I have changed a fair amount of 'cycleways' in my area to paths, as they are in parks where the path is more appropriate, although cycling is permitted there. --ivom 11:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The database is updated each week on a Wednesday morning, although it takes a few days after that for all the tiles to be updated. Gravitystorm 11:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Is this still the case? I have quite a few edits that have not appeared after more than a month. Is there a problem with rendering at the moment? --Ebenezer 01:33, 3 August 2010 (BST)

I too have seen some irregularities with the rendering and update cycle. It has sometimes taken two weeks for changes to update. Also I notice a inconsistencies between zoom levels. For example, the red NCN 2MTB route is rendered at zoom level 11 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.754&lon=7.695&zoom=11&layers=C), but not entirely at zoom level 12 and then correctly at zoom level 13. I updated this route over two months ago. (OpenCycleMap is great, BTW) --Wmaurer 13:17, 22 August 2010 (BST)

Postal code tasks

Hi,

you have removed my chapter "tasks" in postal_code. Can you please move such things to discussion instead? This section is senseful, because it tells you there is no solution yet! Thanks. --Lulu-Ann 11:00, 30 March 2011 (BST)

public_transport Keys and TransportMap

Hi Andy, is it possible to render bus stops tagged with public_transport=stop_position + bus=yes and platforms tagged with public_transport=platform? Although we mapped most of the bus stops in Passau, they do not show up in the TransportMap. --Michael_K ¿! 04:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)