Talk:Proposed features/Beer details
Good idea, but a bit discouraging when there are just so many kinds of beer out there. In my town Gothenburg it have become ever so popular with small brands of peculiar types, with large assortments in many pubs. I guess that need to be adressed with a classification of the amenity=pub. anyway, let this drink:*= be filled with many many drinks, I say "let a thousand flowers blossom"!
The more organized part of me would suggest something like drink:beer:india_pale_ale=draught but that is simply too much. Maybe there could be something like drink:beer=yes and beer:india_pale_ale=draught? /Johan Jönsson 20:58, 10 May 2012 (BST)
Missing beer types
This proposal is definitely incomplete without drink:rauchbier:schlenkerla=draught ;-) --BorisC 00:12, 11 May 2012 (BST)
- There is places where you can get this on tap, definetly worth a tag? anyway, lets not get to overexited over this list, I suggest just adding things you really want to map, not what you think others could maybe want. A nearby example should be the real_ale=* and drink:club-mate=*, there are obviously people enough interested to map those up./Johan Jönsson 15:58, 11 May 2012 (BST)
Not just beer, either. Real cider ftw --Richard 17:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Fixing the abundance of beer
Since beer comes in many flavours, types and brands I suggest the following:
Let's name the drink:beer:*= key by the following convention (All terms should be lower case and spaces should be transformed to underscore):
drink:beer:* leads the key.
It is followed by the brand of the beer. Since a Stout from one manufacturer might completely different than the Stout of another. This is true for every type of beer. Often a brewery has a special taste to it's beers or might even come up with styles that are not very common. As many brands have only one type of beer, it seems to be a good idea to lead with the brand as well.
After the brand the type of beer is defined. This might be: märzen, stout, weissbier, hefeweizen, weizen, dunkles_hefeweizen, dunkles. kölsch, alt, pilsner, dark_lager, schwarzbier, pale_ale, lager, bock, ipa, etc. There really is no end to this list. There are just too many styles out there.
As value I think the proposed terms: yes/draught/bottled/main/no, are good options. Where 'no' would be the option if the bar had run out of stock for example. I see no value in tagging every bar with every possible beer that is out there. The main key is for the main brand that is carried (e.g. the logos that are hanging at the outside of the bar), it can be used for a brand of beer alone or a main type of beer as well (e.g.: Hausbier).
Seasonal beers can be encoded as follows: the key should tail with *:seasonal and the value should be a string defined in Opening Hours
The key differences from the main proposal is that brands lead the style in the key, as brands usually are the more recognized term and they might have a totally different beer of the same name as another brand. e.g.: I might like Murphy's Stout but not Guinnes Stout. Also the style part of the key should not be limited to a fixed number of styles.
Possible tags would look like this:
drink:beer:murauer:märzen=draught (a draught beer available)
drink:beer:gösser=main (the main brand carried by the bar)
drink:beer:flamberger:stout=bottled (a beer available in bottles)
drink:beer=yes (the least specific - you can get beer here)
drink:beer:ottakringer=yes (another brand of beer available at the bar)
drink:beer:marienbräu:chestnut_ale:seasonal=Oct-Dec (a seasonal beer only available from October to December)
I already started tagging places according to this scheme. Let me know what you think.
--flowolf 19:30, 29 August 2013 (CEST)
- I think that drink:beer:* is the best solution to the problem --★ → Airon 90 06:52, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Number of beers instead of/in addition to micro-tagging each beer
In my opinion it would be useful to tag the number of beers on tap and the number of bottled beers, instead of (or in addition to) microtagging all the different kinds of beer (which may change quite regularly). I tried to tag all the breweries selling beers with the brewery=*-tag, but that was not very helpful data, or easy to maintain.
beers_on_tap=* [single numeric value] bottled_beers=* [single numeric value]
And then one can sort pubs on their selection and or see which places only serve two kinds of beer.