Talk:Tag:amenity=shower

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Public?

This just says 'public' showers. Presumably this is also the correct tag for the shower block on a campsite for example. I suppose that would be a access=designated shower. Not "public" but sort of open for lots of customers to use. No doubt people will also use this tag for showers as part of outdoor leisure facilities or even indoor leisure centres (when mapping such indoor details, which personally I've tended not to do much of) Obviously we don't want people to use this tag for mapping their own private shower in their house :-) -- Harry Wood 17:57, 14 September 2012 (BST)

So long as the showers are open to at least customers I'd say it's fine to map private showers with the appropriate access tag to say if it's public|customers|private. Let's avoid household showers! In fact access is the most common combination https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=amenity&value=shower#combinations Aharvey (talk) 06:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I don't think it is sufficient that the showers are available to customers of a facility, not in every case. Think about hotel rooms. I believe we would tag a hotel shower in the room as access=private, hence I would NOT tag it as amenity at all. On a campsite, the showers might be tagged as access=customers. Sometimes you might also be allowed to use the shower of a campsite if you are not sleeping on the site (typically by paying for it). The latter could for sure get the tag. Maybe other than "public", which is unclear and could also refer to ownership, we could state "generally accessible" or "publicly accessible". --Dieterdreist (talk) 08:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I have removed erroneous photos showing private, communal showers located in large workplaces e.g. military bases, schools, factories, which as far as I can see are unlikely to be added.
There are two classes of public showers (what comes to mind);
1. seasonal or year-round (in tropical climates and further south) used for wetting the hair before entering the water, and washing off the dirty water, and salt after leaving. Free of charge.
2. public (public in the sense of available to everyone), year-round, enclosed ones found most often at service stations. Mostly paid, although there are some free ones. Cz ja (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, publicly accessible showers (for example, on railway station) may be relatively large and/or communal or with walls but without doors. Something B (talk) 17:35, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Yes I think it is possible to come across the type of showers you mention ("with walls but without doors"), I have heard of such (in Italy I think?), however I don't have photos. Cz ja (talk) 02:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
You removed one of the photos that showed such a shower (walls without doors). Something B (talk) 21:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Wuppertal - Schwimmoper 17 ies.jpg
Publiczny natrysk Mierzyn09.jpg
Golden Waters pools 8.JPG - but maybe available only for customers
Amorella 20220526 - Viking Line - 20220527 - 11.jpg
Something B (talk) 21:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
I think the number of photos in this article is already sufficient. maro21 23:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Shower and toilet?

How to tag beach showers that have toilets?--Diego ma (talk) 13:19, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I've tagged this as amenity=toilet + shower=yes because mostly they feel like toilet blocks with showers inside too. I'm not sure if this is best. Or you could do amenity=shower + toilet=yes. Or you could use two nodes amenity=toilet on one and amenity=shower on another both within the building. --Aharvey (talk) 11:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Shower for feet only

At least in Spain, in some beaches there are some "showers" that are only to wash the sand from the feet. How would be tag that? Would it be amenity=shower + shower=feet the correct tagging? -- edvac 13:10, 22 July 2014 (UTC+2)

Would this just be a Tag:man_made=water_tap? These are common in Australia near beaches but they are indistinguishable from a water_tap. --Aharvey (talk) 10:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
They have wide sprayer nozzles, and nobody would bend down that far for a drink, and get their clothes sprayed. Jidanni (talk) 21:02, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
I think these "beach showers" might deserve a separate amenity value? Some are just at water tap with a hose, some just a tap and some a simple outdoor shower. The purpose of these showers is mostly to get off salt water and sand than actually washing. Soap should usually not be used as there's no proper drain. --Olejorgenb (talk) 19:20, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
This tag is in widespread use for "beach showers" already. Perhaps another tag could be applied to indicate if the shower affords privacy, outdoor beach showers you'd shower with your swimmers still on but showers in the toilet block you can shower naked. I'll open another topic. Some of these beach showers do have drains some don't probably an even mix in my experience, but haven't seen any rules about not using soap or shampoo. --Aharvey (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

amenity=foot_shower Davileci (talk) 00:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Emergency Shows?

Should there be tags for emergency shows. ie: emergency=shower for chemical or fire related incidents. [1] or should it be amenity=show and a subtag of chemical=yes.User:Brian@Brea 23:42, 1 October 2014 (-8 UTC)

We do not map emergency showers Cz ja (talk) 09:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Ha! See emergency=shower Something B (talk) 14:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Resolved: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

privacy afforded

This tag appears to be in active use for both showers inside a room where you are afforded some level of privacy and showering nude is acceptable and for outdoor beach showers which have no privacy and you generally must remain in your swimmers. Perhaps a new privacy=* tag could be used to distinguish. --Aharvey (talk) 05:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

outdoor=yes may be used for indicating that shower is outdoor. It is not indicate that the indoor shower is communal, but for beach shower is sufficient. Something B (talk) 14:05, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
See Proposed_features/Privacy Something B (talk) 16:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

seasonal recreational showers

I think there should be a different tag for seasonal recreational showers.

Cz ja (talk) 09:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

What is wrong with amenity=shower & seasonal=summer? Something B (talk) 14:06, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Foot and body showers on same node

See Talk:Tag:amenity=foot_shower#Foot and body showers on same node. Jidanni (talk) 20:56, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

single/multiple

If we have several grouped shower stall that is still a single amenity=shower object, maybe with capacity=* added, right? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Photos

@Cz ja: Please explain why photos are incorrect? Special:MobileDiff/2621314 Something B (talk) 15:42, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

He explained it here. maro21 16:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

It seems to me that what is needed is a picture of public showers for travellers or even pilgrims (if you don't find any) in the area between the tropics and the equator, if they exist. Located along the main roads inland. Due to the mild climate, these could be lighter structures. Showers that are part of workplaces (unless they are free for guest as indicated by signs at the entrance), offices, swimming pools, saunas, hotels and private homes are excluded, The service of publicly accessible commercial showers is undoubtedly linked to the development of a country, so in underdeveloped countries such showers may simply not exist. On the other hand, in underdeveloped countries there may be a well-developed network of "opportunities" to wash the body, or even to wash in places of worship. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dfoot_shower - defakto used to wash selected parts of the body hands, legs, face, ears, neck, etc. Cz ja (talk) 12:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Arguably, the tag amenity=foot_shower in relation to ensuring access to clean water for hygiene purposes in the least developed countries needs urgent rendering. Cz ja (talk) 13:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)