Talk:Tag:barrier=gate

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Deprecated?

There's some talk on Talk:Proposed_features/barriers about the deprecation of this tag. Is this to be taken seriously? I haven't seen much in the way of concluding remarks and a ballot on the barrier tag. Ipofanes 15:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

There has been some discussion on this topic here [1]. the conclusion can be that barrier=gate is recommended but highway=gate wont be deprecated until its use really falls by use.--Sergionaranja 10:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Gate normally open or closed?

How can I tag a gate, which is usually open but will only be closed at high watermark? -- Smial 10:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I've used a tag 'closed' containing the times a gate is closed. I imagine you can do the same, though obviously it won't be at fixed times in your case... EAi
I now did it this way: [2], but it is still rendered as closed gate by mapnik. -- Smial 23:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Then you could contact people related to the mapnik rendering I guess. Logictheo 06:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
It is being discussed on the talk-GB mailing to add to the page recommended 'status' key and values to show if the gate is open/unlocked/locked. See talk archive. - LastGrape/Gregory 19:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Gates and highways

There should be a clarification that a gate can only be a point on a single highway, not at an intersection. Otherwise the direction of the way that is impeded is unclear. This may ideally be made part of Maplint. The trouble is, many gates and barriers appear at intersections, so the highway would have to be split up into several small points, similarly to a bridge or tunnel crossing. Ipofanes 15:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Very often you have a fenced area, with one or many gates within the fence way. Those are intersections which do make sense for me. So you would have to differentiate how Lint should work, e.g. no intersection of >=1 real highways (because the fence is a barrier now). Even then, three highway parts could just meet there from outside (maybe this is what you meant above by splitting?).--Rs 16:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Ability to get around gate

To give an example, Node #266557951, the gate on Cornwall Way as it passes under the railway line. The description is "Prevent motor traffic passing through, bicycle and foot OK". Basically the gate blocks the road but leaves a small gap for bikes and pedestrians to fit past. My concern is I'm not sure if this information is recorded in such a way that auto routing would understand it. Should it have an access tag perhaps?

Forgive me...I am new. Is this the right place to ask?

looks like a {barrier=gate . motorcar=no . foot=yes . bicycle=yes}? (because barrier=gate implies access=no; motorcar=no should not be necessary, but I guess is ok to put it) --Sergionaranja 21:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Seasonal

Mention gates only opened in Summer, etc. Jidanni (talk) 02:44, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

have a look at conditional access and / or opening_hours=*--Dieterdreist (talk) 16:20, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

"Loose" gates

Inexperienced contributors quite commonly place barrier=gate nodes (and all other similar barrier nodes) next to roads. Routers of course will not take such unconnected nodes into account.

  1. Should we make it more clear that barrier=* nodes should be part of a highway=* way?
  2. Do any tools (apart from JOSM's validator) find & warn about unconnected barrier nodes?

--Hjart (talk) 08:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Currently, quite at the top, it reads: "This can be placed on a linear barrier, in the intersection node of a linear barrier and a highway way, or at a highway way node." I would not consider the first possibility (part of a linear barrier without any way) good mapping in general, as it doesn't make it clear to which highway the gate refers. The other 2 options seem to state already what you want, not? --Dieterdreist (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I find a bit difficult to read the sentence you quote and I can easily imagine a lot of contributors less experienced than I will just plain not understand it (what's meant by a "highway way node"), so I think it would be better if the sentence is broken up into a bulleted list with illustrations for each. Anyway, I reported the issue to iD too, so at least iD users soon won't be able to create unconnected barrier=gate nodes. --Hjart (talk) 15:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Of course you are free to improve the wiki. How would you improve the current wording? --Dieterdreist (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC)