Proposed features/Bus restriction
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This proposal is redudant and was abondoned. The Feature Page corresponding this to this proposal can be located at Key:psv. |
| Bus restriction | |
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| Status: | Abandoned (inactive) |
| Proposed by: | * |
| Tagging: | bus=yes/private/unknown/no |
| Applies to: | linear |
| Definition: | <definition> |
| Rendered as: | bus symbol on the way? |
| Draft start: | |
| RFC start: | * |
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Lots of roads have bus lanes, some of which also allow other kinds of vehicles. It would make sense to be able to mark these clearly. Sometimes entire roads will be bus lanes, and other times sections of a lane are for bus use only (plus bikes, taxis, etc.).
For flexibility just having a bus restriction property would get us there, though it would also be nice to be able to have them show up on maps produced by the web applet, osmarender, etc. I've no idea how that could be best achieved.
It could show up on maps as a bus symbol next to the lane, and/or a slightly different colour. Although there are a lot of different access restrictions, I think that bus and cycle lanes are sufficiently different and common to warrant their own visualisation. I'd certainly appreciate that for my own use!
Suggestion
Key: bus Value: yes/private/unknown/no
Opinion
- Australia certainly has a few roads just for buses. MikeCollinson 08:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'd note there is already a "psv" tag (public service vehicle) in Map Features that is equivalent to the suggestion but I believe this would only have meaning in the UK. MikeCollinson 08:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure though how this would be practically applied in the manner described. Mapping and rendered maps are done on a street basis, not by lanes. Would you not want instead to apply something like bus_lane=yes or bus_way=lane to a way? This would be the equivalent of adding cycleway=lane. MikeCollinson 08:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- We're not talking about bus lanes, we're talking about infrastructure that is only accessible to buses. See Wikipedia for examples. This kind of thing is common in at least western Europe, South America and Australia, generally as a cheap alternative to light rail. A way to mark this type of road is desperately needed. Additionally, elsewhere on the Wiki there is mention of 'bus sluices' (an incorrect translation of the phrase bus trap) - which could probably be marked by a short stretch of bus-only road. According to several internet sources, a 'psv' is indeed a bus, but this is non-obvious even to people from Britain, where it is a legal description of buses and other public carriage vehicles. Bz2 17:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- In my experience there are a variety of different restrictions that need to be shown: bus lanes, roads open only to buses, roads and lanes only open to local buses but not national buses, bus lanes open to taxis and/or cyclists too, and opposite lanes, where other vehicles are allowed in one direction, but not the other. Also there is the times that the restrictions are in place. Smsm1 13:31, 8 August 2007 (BST)
- This duplicates psv. But perhaps bus would be a better term, for international comprehension? --Hawke 18:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, bus is over here in Belgium something different than a public service vehicle. The last one includes "some" buses. Coaches don't belong to psv. Furthermore, we have places where all buses may drive, and we have places where only public service buses can come, so we'll need the distinction. --Eimai 12:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
