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:::It was closed with "The OWG requires extension requests come from wiki sysadmins. A wiki admin can open a new request for this extension if the wiki admins believe it should be added to the OSM wikis." [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 17:28, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Do we mark this as resolved or continue doing more for this? [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 19:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 
{{resolved|markingMaking as resolvednot actionable - please comemnt if you have an idea for specific actions we can do [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 1408:2822, 94 AprilMay 2024 (UTC)}}
 
== sport descriptions ==
 
= 2024 =
== Help with German translation, Aerowest imagery ==
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Could someone who speaks German find out if there is information about the license of the Aerowest imagery here: [[DE:WissensWert/Luftbilder#Anleitung_für_die_AEROWEST-Webseite]]? I need the license for [[:File:JOSM Mapping Terraced Buildings 0.png|this file]]. The [[User_talk:Cobra#Aerial_imagery_source|uploader]] is inactive. [[User:Maro21|maro21]] 15:26, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 
: After reading [[DE:WissensWert/Luftbilder]] and https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/luftbilder-von-aerowest/56153 I can tell that there was a explicit contract with aerowest.de to enable the derivation of geometric data from aerowest aerial imagery for OSM. The contract was temporary and ended 2012-07-15. There was some effort to make a subsequent contract. But I couldn't find any note that a new one had been signed. However it has been noted that the use of the imagery is tolerated until the subsequent contract will be concluded. And till now the access hasn't been terminated.--[[User:Chris2map|Chris2map]] ([[User talk:Chris2map|talk]]) 18:20, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 
== [[User:Mateusz Konieczny/unusual shop values]] reports ==
 
I started running bot [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mateusz_Konieczny/unusual_shop_values/Serbia&diff=prev&oldid=2650805 generating some QA report].
 
Sorry for not asking before I made this reports, but I want to ask now: is it fine to run such bot edit? It is limited to my user space
 
[[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 09:31, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 
: Yes, I think it's helpful. However, the link to this is worth providing in the forums of the communities, so that mappers can see it. Few mappers look at the Wiki. [[User:Maro21|maro21]] 23:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
::I created also threads at community linking wiki pages - see https://community.openstreetmap.org/search?q=shop%20values and https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/zaskakujace-wartosci-shop-automatycznie-wygenerowana-lista/102651 for Poland [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 10:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 
{{resolved|I consider this bot edit as approved [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 09:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)}}
 
== Is shoulds and shouldn'ts to use JOSM still valid or is it out-of-dated? ==
 
Hello,
I started to edit Cs:JOSM by translating from English and some from Slovak, but is these shoulds and shouldn'ts still valid or is it out-of-dated?
 
You should use this offline editor if:
 
You are going to change a large set of data
You want to change data without having any immediate effect (try something out).
You have taken photos during your track and want to display them on the position they were taken.
You want to use an offline editor and going to edit an area, which you believe other people are currently changing. JOSM supports merging changes and conflict resolving from changed areas (remember to do a download prior every upload).
 
You probably don't want to use JOSM if:
 
You just want to name this one street. Use the online editor.
You don't want to install an application.
You edit the map from behind a firewall that prevents JOSM working properly (e.g. from your place of work).
Your machine doesn't match the Requirements below. [[User:AF HAF KARTOGRAF|AF HAF KARTOGRAF]] 12:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|AF HAF KARTOGRAF}} - yes, this still sounds accurate to me [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 09:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 
{{resolved|Seems resolved [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 11:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)}}
 
== Redirects from prefixless forms to Key: and Tag: articles ==
 
:: This templates uses [[Special:ItemByTitle]] in comparison to {{t|O}} which uses item ID. {{t|ValueItem}} and {{t|TagItem}} are analogous to {{t|TagValue}} and {{t|Tag}}, respectively. {{t|KeyItem}} may be replaced with {{t|TagItem}}, if someone add branches, as in {{t|Tag}}. [[User:Something B|Something B]] ([[User talk:Something B|talk]]) 10:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Strange phenomenon on Talk:Data_items ==
 
This is a real mystery to me. The [[Talk:Data items]] page displays the {Languages} template with links to... Talk:Wiki and {{t|Talk}} in the language-dependent UI, even though this template doesn't work that way. None of the templates are in the page source! I thought maybe the {{t|archives}} template was causing this, but no. I tried adding {archives} to e.g. [[Talk:Verifiability]], but there it only adds archives, so it works fine.
 
The {Languages} and {Talk} templates are visible on the page, but in the revision comparison and revision view they are not: [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Data_items&curid=204610&diff=2648358&oldid=2646697].<br>
They are visible in every version of the page, even the first version: [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Data_items&oldid=1640525].<br>
I also tested it after logout and in other language versions and they are also visible. [[User:Maro21|maro21]] 23:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 
: Eh, I thought about this for several months before writing this topic, and now 5 minutes after writing I discovered the reason... https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Talkpageheader&diff=1808074&oldid=1808073 [[User:Maro21|maro21]] 00:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::Is it then resolved? [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 07:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 
{{resolved|marking as resolved [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 14:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)}}
 
== Too complex wiki pages ==
::::: In this case I'd prefer "[[International highway classification equivalence]]", but subpage style is OK, too. --[[User:Chris2map|Chris2map]] ([[User talk:Chris2map|talk]]) 08:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 
== New wikidata parameter round ==
{{resolved|Edit nears its end [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 02:21, 12 April 2024 (UTC)}}
I noticed that filling of [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_parameter_waiting_for_removal_from_infobox Category:Wikidata_parameter_waiting_for_removal_from_infobox] was a bit buggy: empty parameters failed to appear there.
 
I have now fixed it. I plan to continue running https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wiki&oldid=2404957#Remove_wikidata_parameters_from_infoboxes edit to make edits like https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:truck:repair&diff=prev&oldid=2691978 [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 14:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 
:[[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz]], do you use any automation for such tasks? I downloaded and tried [https://sourceforge.net/projects/autowikibrowser/ AutoWikiBrowser]. Probably the best non-Wikipedia instructions are available from Fandom wiki (https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:AutoWikiBrowser). I configured the OSM wiki in settings and I could browse categories, such as the one you mentioned above. However, I cannot login to this account through AWB -- I get strange error ''The "login" module requires a POST request.'' I suppose something should be configured in this Wiki to enable AWB editing (the help page suggests "logging with a bot account", which I'm not sure is a thing on OSM wiki). [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:Ah, I see you have [[User:Mateusz Konieczny - bot account]] but I don't know which kind of scripting it uses. [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 11:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_wiki_tag_api/blob/master/edit_wiki/remove_dead_wikidata_parameter.py - a Python script. It is using some libraries (especially for parsing wiki syntax and making connection itself) but no scripting framework. I tried using AWB and pywikibot from what I remember but it suffered from severe case of frameworkism and poor documentation, it was easier for me to write own tool over guessing how to fit magic together and understand what is going on. [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 11:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I was trying to say that I'm willing to help out, but manually opening and editing 500+ pages just to remove a parameter that does not display anyway is not particularly entertaining; mapping trees in a savanna would be better spent time. AWB looks like a promising tool to automate the job, but I don't know what it takes to run it ([https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/warts-and-all warts and all]) on OSM wiki. [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 13:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Then do not worry: it is already automated. I posted this section to let people know (and give opportunity to protest) that automated edit will run again [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 04:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::Ah OK. I thought you were soliciting help; but upon re-reading this section it was not the case. Actually, I inferred that from [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:truck:repair&diff=prev&oldid=2691978 this edit summary] of yours, but it was just a generic one. Still, it would be nice to have AWB working... [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 07:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 
== Mysterious category ==
 
What adds in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Pages_needing_cleanup_since_specified_date&action=edit&redlink=1 and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Questioned_content categories? [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 07:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
: [[Template:Dubious]] in combination with [[Template:Fix]] --[[User:Chris2map|Chris2map]] ([[User talk:Chris2map|talk]]) 08:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 
{{resolved|Thanks! [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 12:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)}}
 
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