Proposed features/Fire Hydrant

Fire Hydrant
Status:	Post-Vote (under way)
Proposed by:	Hobby Navigator
Tagging:	amenity=fire_hydrant
Applies to:	node
Definition:	Fire hydrants more precise
Rendered as:
Draft start:	2008-06-01 (old proposal: 2007-07-26)
RFC start:	2010-07-26
Vote start:	2010-08-06
Vote end:	2010-08-20

Contents 1 VOTE END UPDATE 2 amenity vs. emergency 3 Proposal 4 Attributes 5 Discussion 6 Already used? 7 See also 8 Voting

VOTE END UPDATE

The proposal moved to emergency. Because someone shifted the old "fire hydrant"-tag to emergency, too.

amenity vs. emergency

After a long discussion about the "emergency-tags" we decided to let the fire hydrants in the amenity namespace (for now).

This discussion was where? Please provide the link.

Proposal

The amenity=fire_hydrant tag is already there. This Proposal is more precise than the old tag.

amenity=fire_hydrant
+ fire_hydrant:type=underground/pillar/wall/pond
+ fire_hydrant:diameter=# (optional)
+ fire_hydrant:pressure=#/suction (optional)
+ ref=* (optional)
+ name=* (optional)
+ fire_hydrant:position=lane/parking_lot/sidewalk/green (optional)
+ fire_hydrant:count=# (optional)

additional proposal - not approved by vote beneath

+ fire_hydrant:reservoir=# (optional)

There are spring-fed basins with a spring too small to support large quantity of water sampling by itself. So the basin needs a reservoir capacity such as 80m³. Since 'capacity' is ambiguous under this topic I proposed 'reservoir'. -feneks

Attributes

1. Hydrant type (surface- / underground hydrant)

fire_hydrant:type=underground/pillar/wall/pond

underground	pillar	wall	pond
thy fire hydrand is underground, you need a standpipe			aka "dry hydrant", you need a pump

2. Dimensioning (diameter 65, 80, 100, 150 etc.)

fire_hydrant:pipe_diameter=*

3. Name / ID

name=*

ref=* need example what to enter

4. Position (close range)

fire_hydrant:position=lane/parking_lot/sidewalk/green

5. Pressure

fire_hydrant:pressure=#/suction (Pressure in bar / "suction" for dry hydrants)

6. Count

fire_hydrant:count=# (if there are more than one fire hydrant)

7. Dismissed ideas (see discussion in thread (German) and mailing list)

man_made=fire_hydrant

emergency=fire_hydrant Mailing list: It's a big thing to change things to emergency, there are not only fire hydrants but hospitals, police stations, ...

Incorrect, as nothing renders it, the only change is a JOSM preset change.

refnr=*

performance_pressure=#

performance_flow=#

Discussion

• talk page (Postings from the old proposal, too)
• German forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=762

Already used?

• From the old proposal: amenity=fire_hydrant^edit

See also

German proposal wiki page: de:Fire hydrant

Voting

• I approve this proposal. --Schlumpf 12:25, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- i believe it should go directly to emergency=* -- Nfgusedautoparts 12:41, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- because we finally need a approved tag for fire hydrants, particularly with unified sub-tags for fire brigades --Fireball2 12:49, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Chris66 14:22, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. until it is clearified how this proposal is different from emergency=fire_hydrant, this vote should be suspended. Any statistics available? --Skippern 13:26, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --higa4 13:35, 6 August 2010 (UST)
• I approve this proposal. --Sebastian89 21:00, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I like this proposal. --Pieren 23:55, 6 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- i believe it should go to emergency=* --Surly 09:51, 7 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --wambacher 21:26, 7 August 2010 (UST)
• I approve this proposal. --BBO 21:16, 7 August 2010 (BST)
• I abstain this proposal. -- Drlizau because these votes are not useful while noting that this tag is not a general amenity but belongs logically to Emergency.
• I approve this proposal. --badger 22:40, 8 August 2010 (UST)
• I oppose this proposal. --Skyper 10:38, 9 August 2010 (MEST), I go with Skippern
• I approve this proposal. --Taroc 11:26, 9 August 2010 (MEST)
• I abstain this proposal. --JohnSmith 10:29, 9 August 2010 (BST) I agree with Drlizau
• I abstain this proposal. Franc 10:45, 9 August 2010 (BST) I doubt this should be in amenity
• I approve this proposal. Hobby Navigator 20:12, 9 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. Acrosscanadatrails with the addition that both the amenity|fire_hydrant and emergency|fire_hydrant be used and rendered as the same icon. Since amenity=fire_hydrant; emergency=yes is also valid. Seehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency where

emergency=ambulance_station emergency=fire_extinguisher emergency=fire_flapper emergency=fire_hose emergency=ses_station emergency=siren are all valid.

• I approve this proposal. amenity=fire_hydrant gibt es seit 2008 :-) --Markus 12:42, 12 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Ratz159 11:38, 13 August 2010 (BST)

• I oppose this proposal. A changing of the proposal, during the vote? So this Proposal / this vote is invalid! Sorry... If you revert the changing or if you start the voting again, then I will approve this proposal. But I can't accept a changing of attributes during a vote... This is inacceptable in any vote! --Efred 21:28, 13 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I would also put this to emergency -- Dieterdreist 01:43, 15 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I would also put this to emergency.--Skyper 12:06, 16 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Water is not only for emergency. --Lulu-Ann 13:51, 17 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I would also put this to emergency -- Al3xius 23:29, 17 August 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --MetiorErgoSum 19:13, 19 August 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I would also put this to emergency --amai 20:53, 20 August 2010 (BST)