Proposed features/use sideway

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PLEASE SEE NEW PROPOSAL : bicycle=use_sidepath. Same thing, different name.


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use_sideway
Status: Rejected (inactive)
Proposed by: PeeWee32
Tagging: bicycle=use_sideway
Applies to: Highways with a classification that allows cycling generally without "bicycle forbidden sign" but with a parallel compulsory cycleway.

Countries that have compulsory cycleways.

Definition: This is a highway (for example tertiary) with a classification that allows cycling generally without "bicycle forbidden sign" but with a parallel compulsory cycleway.
Drafted on: 2014-01-30

The main reason for this new tag

This is a proposal for a new access tag. It is a tag to mark that it is normally not allowed to use the road on a bicycle. Instead use the compulsory cycleway.

What is the new proposal (use_sideway)

This tag bicycle=use_sideway applies only to roads with a classification that allows cycling generally. When this road has a parallel compulsory cycleway (e.g. Zeichen 240 - Gemeinsamer Fuß- und Radweg, StVO 1992.svg or Zeichen 241-30.svg (DE, PL) or Nederlands verkeersbord G12a.svg or 100px-Nederlands verkeersbord G11 svg.png) (NL) this tag can be applied. But only when this road does NOT have a traffic sign saying it is explicitly forbidden to ride a bicycle (e.g. Nederlands verkeersbord C14.svg or Nederlands verkeersbord C9.svg ). In that case use the "bicycle=no". Legal and access implications may and will vary from country to country. The implications of these traffic signs on many specials vehicles and situations varies so much that it would need a lot of new tags to express this in OSM. There is no need to do this if the legal situation is clear. With a new country specific access scheme (=concept) on compulsory cycleways and their parallel roads it should give routers and renderers enough information for any type of vehicle/situation.

Rationale

Tagging Access

This tag will add access information to the OSM database. The absence of any "bicycle= " tag may give the impression that cycling is always allowed which is not the case when there is a parallel compulsary cycleway.

Routing

This tag will improve bicycle routing. A router can now decide to propose a route that does not use these type of roads. Because of the absence of a "bicycle=" tag routers propose routes that are illegal to take. Here are some examples.

Example1 from Openfietsmap Garmin map (cycleways are red or red/blue)

Use cycleway routing2.jpg


Example2 from the android app Osmand (cycleways are blue dotted, the route is purple)
Here is an example of the Android app Osmand. See how the app also fails to take the cycleway.
Osmandusesideway.jpg
Below is how we like it to be.
OsmandOK.jpg


See the discussion page of the first proposal for more details about routing.

Rendering

A renderer can decide to render these kind of roads differently. A map can be made showing roads on which you are (not) supposed to ride with an ordinary (or exceptional) bicycle. The OSM based Openfietsmap for Garmin GPS devices uses the "bicycle=no" tag to add dashes to these of roads. This way a cyclist can see on his GPS device if he is allowed to ride on this road.

Use cycleway bicycle no.jpg

Something similar can be done with the bicycle=use_sideway tag.

In Bremen (DE) some roads already have the bicycle=use_cycleway tag. This makes it possible to make a map showing bicycle=no, bicycle=use_sideway (new proposal) and bicycle=use_cycleway (old proposal).


Examples

Picture Tags
FietspadG11.jpg
Cycleway: cycling is compulsory.
Cycleway:
highway=cycleway
(implicit:bicycle=designated)

Main road:
bicycle=use_sideway
Nederlands verkeersbord G13.svg(NL)
or
France road sign C113.svg(FR)
or
Zusatzzeichen 1022-10.svg(DE)
Cycleway: cycling is NOT compulsory.
Cycleway:
highway=cycleway
Possible additional tags, i.e. tags that show that the cycleway is not compulsory or mofa=* tags

Main road:
no explicit bicycle=* tags
Wilhelminenstraße (Darmstadt).jpg
Cycling is explicit not allowed
highway=*
bicycle=no (explicit bicycle ban)

Some more examples in which all cycleways are compulsory cycleways.

Picture Remarks
Use sideway1.jpg NL, DE, PL, FI: Common situation in urban and rural areas. Alternatively there could be 2 oneway cycleways. One on each side of the road.
Use sideway2.jpg NL: Common situation in non-urban areas.

DE, PL, FI: Situation at some bypass- or trunk-roads.
Use sideway3.jpg In this situation cycling one way you should use the cycleway. Cycling the other way you should use the main road. There are no one-way signs present on the main road so a oneway tag is not applicable.
Use sideway4.jpg In this situation cycling one way you should use the cycleway. Cycling the other way you should use the main road. There are no one-way signs present on the main road so a oneway tag is not applicable.
Use sideway5.jpg In this situation cycling one way you should use the cycleway. Cycling the other way you should use the main road. There are no one-way signs present on the main road so a oneway tag is not applicable.
Use sideway6.jpg In this situation cycling one way you should use the cycleway. Cycling the other way you should use the main road. There are no one-way signs present on the main road so a oneway tag is not applicable.

Extra info about the last proposal (bicycle=use_cycleway) and some of our arguments

Read more here.

Links

On both the German forum (in English) and Dutch forum there have been discussions on how to tag these highways. To support this tag a interactive map is made to highlight these (and other) roads.

bicycle=use_sideway
bicycle:forward=use_sideway    bicycle:backward=use_sideway

OLD PROPOSAL

bicycle=use_cycleway
bicycle:forward=use_cycleway    bicycle:backward=use_cycleway


Voting

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