Proposed features/waste collection

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Key:waste_collection
Status: Rejected (inactive)
Proposed by: Warin61
Tagging: waste_collection=*
Applies to:
Definition: Describing features for the collection of waste\
Rendered as: depends on the value assigned
Drafted on: Warin61 (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
RFC start: Warin61 (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Vote start: Warin61 (talk) 01:32, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Vote end: Brycenesbitt (talk) 01:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC) 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Test of the support for a new top level tag of Key:waste_collection=


Do not fixate on the values of this key .. the values shown here are to demonstrate the possibly values, the number of values and are examples ONLY. If this passes then each value would be a separate proposal with separate comment and voting.


Rationale

There are lost of types of waste_collection, including recycling .. and it may become difficult to mange them all under other top level tags. Most require a different rendering to identify the feature, and so a higher level tag would aid this.


For organizational purposes waste_collection can be separated by its state; solid or liquid.


Usage=

Covering an assortment of community facilities for the collection of waste.


Waste container.jpg Bin.JPG Pet Waste Station.jpgDumping-RV-Waste-Tanks.jpg Ash Trash Receptacle.tif

Present waste_collection related conflicts

The presently existing used 'waste' tags total 7 and are;

amenity=waste_disposal

amenity=waste_basket

These use the sub tag of waste= to specify the type of waste.

amenity=waste_transfer_station

Uses a sub tag to identify the type of waste/s.


The presently in use 'waste' tags but undocumented tags are;

amenity=dog_bin

amenity=dog_waste_bin


The other 'waste' tags are;

amenity=dumpstation (abandoned - not in use)

waterway=waste_disposal (depreciated - to amenity=waste_disposal)

Present 'recycling' tags that may be replaced;

amenity=recycling

Terms

American terms have been used in the tag waste= e.g. 'trash', this has been replace here by the more British 'waste_collection'. Another American term is 'dumpster', recommend 'skip' to be used if required.

Containers

Possibly best separate by size (I've used the volume terms commonly used here in Australia.. any British input?)

Large - skip bins - over say 3 m^3 (3,000 litres? )

medium - wheelie bins - 120 litres, 240 litres.. others?

small - bins - 50 litres or less?

This may become a sub key .. for example volume=240 litres ?

Recycling

Included this as part of the waste_collection system.

May have an additional sub tag of recycling=yes. Subject to further proposal/s.

Possible additional keys?

tag waste_collection:recycling=yes/no/partial ? or a simple sub tag recycling=yes/no/partial ? Unfortunate the waste_collection= keys would still remain for those places where recycling does not take place (so why separate the waste_collection? Or where the recycling status is unknown)

Possible Values

What are the possible values for this key, 27 so far? I've includes ones in use, and those documented in OSM. I think each of these will need there own proposals.. if the waste_collection key is accepted. So don't worry about these - they are one example only.

State:Solids

waste_collection=rubbish_bin - less than 50 liters (0.5m^3?) receptacle for general pedestrian waste

waste_collection=cigarettes_bin - for the disposal for cigarettes buts and ash - small say less than 10 litres

waste_collection=sharps_bin - for the disposal of syringes and needles, common in medical area for the safe disposal of needles

waste_collection=paper_bin - for the disposal of paper, may be used for recycling. May include cardboard.

waste_collection=household_bin - for the disposal of waste generated by a domestic household. Usually a wheelie bin.

waste_collection=household_recycling - for the recycling of waste generated by a domestic household. Typically contains paper wrapping/products, plastic wrapping/products, metal products, contents may vary by region. Usually a wheelie bin.

waste_collection=green_waste_bin - for the disposal/recycling of garden clippings.

waste_collection= metal_ferrous_bin - for the disposal/recycling of ferrous metals.

waste_collection= metal_nonferrous_bin - for the disposal/recycling of nonferrous metals. eg aluminum cans. May be further subdivided by metal type e.g. copper, aluminum

waste_collection= metal_bin - for the disposal/recycling of both ferrous and nonferrous metals.

waste_collection= plastics_bin - for the disposal/recycling of plastics. eg PET bottles. May be further subdivided by type. Use the triangle numbers 1 to 7?

waste_collection= glass_bin - for the disposal/recycling of glass e.g. glass bottles. Maybe further subdivided by colour.

waste_collection=drugs_bin - for the collection of pharmaceuticals / medicine / drugs. Size?

waste_collection=rubble_bin - for the collection of builders waste - usually a skip bin, may be recycled as fill.

waste_collection=clothing_bin - for recycling of clothing.

waste_collection=white_goods - for the collection of fridges, freezers, stoves, dishwashers, cloth washers.

waste_collection=electrical_bin - for the collection of electrical items, other than white goods.

waste_collection=asbestos - for the disposal of asbestos.

waste_collection=drugs_bin - for the collection of drugs. Usually found within a medical facility or pharmacy.

waste_collection=tyres_bin - for the disposal of vehicle tyres

waste_collection=printer_consumables for the disposal of printer cartridges, ink jet cartridges?


State:Liquids

waste_collection=oil_receptacle - for the disposal of used oil

waste_collection=dog_excrement_receptacle - for the disposal of dog excrement after it has been picked up and bagged, commonly found on the edge of parkland used for dog walking

waste_collection=excrement_receptacle - for the disposal of human excrement, commonly used by boats. Maybe called 'black water'.

waste_collection=chemical_toilet_receptacle - for the disposal of human excrement where it has been deposited in a chemical toilet, commonly used by caravans, RVs.

waste_collection=grey_water_receptacle - ( e.g. from showers and dish washing). This can be recycled e.g toilet flushing, garden watering.


Facility?

waste_collection=transfer_station

Comments

This arises out of the need for more tags for waste_collection facilities; the options for these new tag are;


A) More values under the key amenity such as amenity=waste_dump_station?

B) More values under amenity=waste_disposal in the key waste=?

OR

C) New top level key waste_collection= with new values under that?


Use the tagging group for comments, the talk page if you must.

Voting

Voting possible finish 2 April 2015, I like to leave voting open for at least 3 weeks.

Instructions for voting. Log in to the wiki - top right corner of the page -scroll up. Then scroll down to voting and click on 'edit'. Copy and paste for

yes - {{vote|yes}} ~~~~ no - {{vote|no}} ~~~~ Please state your reason/s for opposition! This may help a new proposal better fit your requirements. The ~~~~ automatically inserts your OSM name and the date and time in UTC format.


  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. No, no, no. The tag is wrong, along with the premise that we're voting only on a top level tag not the entire proposal. The conflict with recycling is unresolved. No, no and no. Brycenesbitt (talk) 01:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I will not spend my time on expanding the proposal to cover all the possibilities, resolve all the conflicts if the concept is wrong. The concept, if you have missed it, is .. should there be a high level tag for waste .. rather than put it under the amenity tag? Warin61 (talk) 06:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Exactly, the concept is wrong. No vote confirmed. Brycenesbitt (talk) 17:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • The concept is to have a new tag system for waste, rather then place it under amenity. It would see the past tags eventually moved across to this tag. Warin61 (talk) 06:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. "Note: The voting is a test of the support for a new top level tap Key:waste_collection= .. not the suggested values on the page .. those are for an indication ONLY .. and should be further discussed and voted on if the proposal is approved." (from mailing list message) makes absolutely no sense. "not the suggested values on the page .. those are for an indication ONLY .. and should be further discussed and voted on if the proposal is approved." It is strange and confusing - how key is supposed to be used without any valid values? To check support for key just ask on tagging mailing list. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:05, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. Please stop this voting inflation! Every second day you put something up for a vote which has not been used for a single second! That is not the way it works. Document it, use it, adjust it, propose it, use it more, adjust it again and maybe after some time - if you feel it is necessary - put it up for voting. This drawing-board-tag-inflation is just dangerous. And specific to this "proposal": are you serious? --Imagic (talk) 07:42, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. User 5359 (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. malenki Too much obvious flaws, nearly no reactions at the talk page. -- malenki 15:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I oppose this proposal I oppose this proposal. --Foxxi59 (talk) 13:12, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Note!

There is a proposal for amenity=sanitary_dump_station, presently open for voting at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station If you object to this proposal then you should support the other! You may support both!

I repeat the first sentence! Test of the support for a new top level tag of Key:waste_collection= Thus not the example values - those I see as requiring further discussion and later voting.