Talk:Proposed features/Civic admin

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Reasoning for new landuse tags

Basic land uses are shown either through landuse=* or amenity=* applied to an area. Landuse is defined by the class of purpose, rather than the more narrow Amenity values. But there are several classes of buildings that are not currently represented. civic_admin is proposed to fill in one of those missing values. It follows the idea of the other landuse values - residential, retail, commercial, and religious, which give you a rough idea of the landuse's purpose, but do not narrowly define it's purpose - which is left to building=* and amenity=* tagged on the buildings and areas contained within the landuse.

Many town centers are filled with governmental complexes, centers, and buildings, without a corresponding landuse tag. This includes City halls and regional / national leadership buildings, Council and legislative centers, and Administration and licensing agencies (such as the Department of Motor Vehicles). civic_admin roughly defines the landuse for these buildings.It has been suggested by some to use landuse=commercial for these facilities, but that is a misleading and incorrect use of the value. civic_admin is a better solution to the problem.

Other cultures

What about e.g. islamic countries where there is a lot of overlap between religion and "the state"? A courtroom is both "civic admin/judicial" and "religious" at the same time.

In some countries there could also be overlap between civic admin and military. --Csmale (talk) 07:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

landuse=institutional

Someone added Tag:landuse=institutional - I put a merge box on top of that article.

For me landuse is a larger scale property extending at least a quarter between streets. For smaller contiguous areas an amenity=* should be sufficient. For amenities with the same name and purpose scattered among several buildings the site relation should be adequate. --Seichter (talk) 17:36, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I propose Tag:landuse=institutional. It feels more KIS to me. "civic_admin" is a term I can't keep in my mind. And I don't think this is a feature which needs a thounds words to explain. To much to explain --> to complicated. --EinKonstanzer (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

taginfo interim status 30 March 2015

landuse=...

  • institutional=187
  • civic_admin=11
  • education=395
  • educational=14

taginfo interim status 23 August 2016

landuse=...

  • institutional=286
  • institution=6
  • civic_admin=24
  • civic_adminstration=2
  • education=419
  • educational=14
  • school=2338
  • public=300

landuse=education(al)

I think to have a separate tag for this is a rather good idea! Is education(al) a proper term for schools, vocational schools, universities, colleges, kindergarden, etc. ???

--EinKonstanzer (talk) 16:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Dutch situation

In Dutch zoning regulations, area's for schools etc. are given the designation "maatschappelijk". This translates to words like "social", "societal", "civic", areas for providing public services. I can also live with "institutional" though. --Kars (talk) 10:50, 23 August 2016 (UTC)