Talk:Tag:shop=grocery

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This page needs significant re-working.

A grocery is not the same as a greengrocer.

The differences between a grocer and a convenience store are more subtle, but they are real.

The page is misleading, and needs to be changed. However, since this is a radical change I do not want to go ahead without providing an opportunity for others to comment. So as a starting point for discussion, these are the changes I suggest:

Remove the deprecated mark.

Define a grocery: A grocery is a retail store that specialises in selling non-perishable food.

This tag is intended to be used for a traditional grocery shop. Typically these are more specialised than a supermarket or convenience store. Both supermarkets and convenience stores can be expected to stock a wider range of goods that fall outside the non-perishable food category, and will have longer opening hours. Supermarkets and convenience stores are sometimes described as grocery businesses. However shop=grocer tag is not intended for these. Use shop=supermarket or shop=convenience_store instead.

A shop that specialises in selling fruit and vegetables is a greengrocer.

--Peter Reed (talk) 17:40, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Peter, I'm ok with changing it. Some suggestions: Talk about this in the tagging mailing list to see some opinions (I believe most responses will be positive), because someone can point out some other valuable perspective. You say the difference between a grocery and a convenience store can be subtle, so if you change this page, I ask you to:
1. Mention shop=grocery in shop=convenience's page;
2. Explain the difference between both;
3. Mention whether a grocery is more common than a convenience store, and in which country (only mention for the countries you know, but do make it explicit which ones);
4. If possible, put some pictures from wikimedia commons.
Thanks --Jgpacker (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2014 (UTC)