Talk:Tag:shop=hairdresser

Barbers and Hairdressers are Very Different

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned, but in the US at least, barbers and hairdressers have very different qualifications and licenses for historical reasons. Visible differences are barbers use sharp implements without guards, e.g, they shave people with straight razors, and use clippers freehand where hairdressers use guards of various sizes, and of course hairdressers do much more than just cut hair.

Also, barbers display a barber pole in front of their shop.

I'd like to see shop=barber

--Rhardy (talk) 20:30, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I support this. In Ghana there are many hairdressers and many barbers. The barbers only cut your hair whereas the hairdressers only braid hair and do other stuff with it.

--Mfbehrens99 (talk) 09:45, 06 December 2019 (UTC)

See the proposal to create shop=barbershop Casey boy (talk) 08:37, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I also support this. Maybe shop=barber or even shop=barbershop could be used to distinguish two very different services. --AntMadeira (talk) 23:07, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

to indicate it is barber shop, there seems to be some usage of:

hairdresser=barber

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More details at taginfo

More details at taginfo

--mnalis (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

A proposal for hairdresser=barber was recently approved as a way of tagging barbers. Casey boy (talk) 14:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Switch combination suggestion from booking=* to reservation=*

I would suggest the wiki page be changed to suggest the tag reservation=* rather than booking=*.

reservation=* and booking=* are largely duplicates of each other. reservation=* has about 2200 instances, while booking=* has about 300. The wiki page for reservation=* dates from 2011, while the page for booking=* is from 2018.

Both keys take a mostly overlapping set of values.

Within the context of hairdressers, the term reservation is also used colloquially.

Children?

There is no tag whether children's hair is cut. I think not all hairdressers do. (e.g. some does not have the high chair.) There are 116 instances of children=* and 103 of child=* but I don't know in what combinations/context they appear. I can't find them under combinations of shop=hairdresser on TagInfo. Kempelen (talk) 08:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

I asked the same question in German here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/zielpublikum-von-friseursalons/106940 ...and got "children:yes" as a recommendation. --Derloris (talk) 19:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

beauty=*

Mnalis, [1] shop=hairdresser + beauty=* should be used when the beauty services are provided at the same premises. How did you measure that mapping shop=beauty separately in cases when it is the same premises with the same name is more common? maro21 21:27, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@Maro21: taginfo & overpass. shop=beauty is used about 119000 times (unfortunately overpass to filter it in more is too slow to run on any but small areas), while shop=hairdresser+beauty=* is used only about 500 times worldwide. I modified the wording to be less strong anyway, feel free to further improve on it if you see the need --mnalis (talk) 02:49, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

That's not what I had in mind. Whether someone has tagged shop=hairdresser+beauty instead of two nodes with shop=hairdresser and shop=beauty can only be checked visually. By checking if there are two nodes close to each other. So overpass will not help. The number of occurrences of shop=beauty does not matter here. I rephrased it in the article. maro21 16:34, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

@Maro21: have you looked into that first overpass? It uses overpass around() function to only find shop=beauty objects that are very near shop=hairdresser objects. I.e. it accomplishes mechanically (at some extra resources penalty) what you seem to suggest that one can only do visually, if I understood you correctly? --mnalis (talk) 20:58, 13 April 2023 (UTC)