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= Summary =
= Summary =


In short the general definition of {{Key|highway}} should be changed to '''importance for the road grid/network instead of physical attributes'''.
In short the general definition of {{Key|highway}} should be changed to '''importance instead of physical attributes'''.


= Longer Version =
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After continuous discussions on talk and talk-de about the general meaning of the Key {{Key|highway}}, it was agreed, that the current definition, introduced in 2007, did not reflect the actual meaning of the key and is posing a lot of problems, especially in the context of a world-map.
After continuous discussions on talk and talk-de about the general meaning of the Key {{Key|highway}}, it was agreed, that the current definition, introduced in 2007, did not reflect the actual meaning of the key and is posing a lot of problems, especially in the context of a world-map.


Therefore [[User:Dieterdreist]] changed the page after discussions to reflect the common practise better and achieve a more generic definition appliable in all contexts.
Therefore the page was changed after discussions to reflect the common practise better and achieve a more generic definition appliable in all contexts.


In short the definition of {{Key|highway}} should be changed to '''importance instead of physical attributes'''. This does not mean not to tag physical attributes, they are very important for a lot of reasons. Therefore the proposed changes also include references to the most important physical attributes to add: {{Key|lanes}}, {{Key|surface}}, {{Key|width}}.
In short the definition of {{Key|highway}} should be changed to '''importance for the road grid/network instead of physical attributes'''. This does not mean not to tag physical attributes, they are very important for a lot of reasons. Therefore the proposed changes also include references to the most important physical attributes to add: {{Key|lanes}}, {{Key|surface}}, {{Key|width}}.


= Reasoning =
= Reasoning =
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* '''Yes''' to classifying roads by importance, '''no''' to the idea that this page should be needed after the mailing list discussion. --[[User:Wynndale|Wynndale]] 16:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' to classifying roads by importance, '''no''' to the idea that this page should be needed after the mailing list discussion. --[[User:Wynndale|Wynndale]] 16:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' we already do this in Sweden. [[User:Norpan|Norpan]] 17:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' we already do this in Sweden. [[User:Norpan|Norpan]] 17:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' to classifying roads by importance, see discussion page. --[[User:HeikoE|HeikoE]] 19:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' because it is already practised in Germany and many other countries. --[[User:FK270673|FK270673]] 20:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' because it doesn't matter. An attempt to define the highway tag in one sentence, which applies from Germany to Nigeria, is an epic fail anyway. --[[User:Bass|Bass]] 22:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:39, 27 August 2009

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Summary

In short the general definition of highway=* should be changed to importance instead of physical attributes.

Longer Version

After continuous discussions on talk and talk-de about the general meaning of the Key highway=*, it was agreed, that the current definition, introduced in 2007, did not reflect the actual meaning of the key and is posing a lot of problems, especially in the context of a world-map.

Therefore the page was changed after discussions to reflect the common practise better and achieve a more generic definition appliable in all contexts.

In short the definition of highway=* should be changed to importance for the road grid/network instead of physical attributes. This does not mean not to tag physical attributes, they are very important for a lot of reasons. Therefore the proposed changes also include references to the most important physical attributes to add: lanes=*, surface=*, width=*.

Reasoning

This voting is set up because each of the members of the OSM 'family' deeply respects the opinions of her/his colleagues and so wouldn't want to make major changes to one of the most-used keys - especially changes that have proved controversial - without going through as 'democratic' and open a process as possible. For details see: [[1]]

The changes were following a discussion announced here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/039211.html (please see followups to keep track, continued also here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-August/039444.html )

Changes in detail

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Key%3Ahighway&diff=316036&oldid=315699

Discussion

please use the mailing lists and the discussion page

Voting

don't know how to start, but I guess some of the rules for proposing new tags (formally not appliable here) will apply nonetheless (period of discussion), so I'm awaiting feedback from the Wiki-advocats how to do this in a legal way.

  • Yes to classifying roads by importance, no to the idea that this page should be needed after the mailing list discussion. --Wynndale 16:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes we already do this in Sweden. Norpan 17:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)