Proposed features/Beer Quality

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Instead of your SatNav beeping to tell you a speed camera is near, how about it beeping when you approach a pub with good beer?

Applies to

amenity=pub (Nodes). Possibly other places such as restaurants.


<tag k="amenity" v="pub"/>
<tag k="beer_quality" v="excellent|good|moderate|poor"/>

Icon Design

Probably don't need an icon. Just used by applications.

Notes and Comments

  • Excellent idea! (Un)fortunately there's no internationally recognized criteria for good beer. What about beers=Guinness,Kilkenny,Budweiser,Wolters? Or even guinness=keg, kilkenny=keg, budweiser=bottle, coke=can, etc.?
Properly used this could be really cool for a pub map of a town, showing icons of the brands all over. Fröstel 00:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I am sympathatic to this idea, but would it not be more sensible to have the tag be pub=realale, or somesuch, which is what people usually mean when they talk about the beer being good? (if you mean something different, that just shows how ambigous the tag is ;) Morwen 07:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I think we open ourselves, not only to subjectivity with "good/moderate/poor", but complaints from pub owners if their pub is classed as "poor". Richard B 13:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
good/moderate/poor are subjective values indeed, and since their personal, I wouldn't like to put those on a map. It's more something for a rating website. Also, giving a list of beers is probably a bad idea. If a pub in Belgium only has 20 beers, the customers complain that it's a poor choice. And I'm not really willing to type a list of 20 elements into OSM. --Sanderd17 12:56, 6 August 2012 (BST)

  • I like the idea of providing more information about pubs, but can we find more objective ways of doing it? For example, guest_ales=yes or even guest_ales=3 would be helpful. If I'm in an unfamiliar area I look for pubs that don't just have lager and crappy 'smoothflow' beers. Also, perhaps we could indicate whether the pub has any CAMRA awards like a 'cask mark', which would be an objective way (for us at least) to indicate beer quality (leave it to CAMRA to make the judgement). It would be like restaurants having a michelin_stars=2 tag. -- Geoff
Scratch that, the 'cask marque' isn't a CAMRA award after all, and apparently doesn't mean much. But there are CAMRA awards like 'best pub' or whatever. --Geoff 18:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


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