Proposed features/agricultural Field
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| agricultural Field | |
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| Status: | Redundant (inactive) |
| Proposed by: | [[User:|]] |
| Tagging: | landuse=field or pasture |
| Applies to: | area |
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| Rendered as: | patterned |
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this proposal appears to overlap significantly Crop and and landuse=farm. please clarify, or it will be removed on 2008-01-18
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Tags
| Key | Value | Element | Comment | Example |
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| landuse | field |   |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_%28agriculture%29 | 
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Also See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(agriculture)
The Problem
landuse farm should only be use for the "core-area" of a farm. e.g. the area with the farm-house, the barn, greenhouses, stables,... often surrounded by fences. To tag every field where cows or sheep are browsing would be insane and would debilitate the meanings the tag could give. For instance 60% of the non-urban area in Germany is in a agricultural use. Tagging this all as farm can't seriously be the way ;). For that we should create other landuse-tags. e.g. "landuse=field" and "landuse=cropland"
Comments
- "landuse=pasture" could be an alternative tagging to the multiway-used word "field" --Cbm 05:56, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- this proposal appears to overlap significantly Crop and and landuse=farm. please clarify, or it will be removed on 2008-01-18
- this is not true. farm, field/pasture and cropland/tillage are not overlaping, but complement each other --Cbm 15:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Then perhaps an agriculture tag is needed. Since such a vastly huge amount of the earth's surface is agricultural, I think it deserves special attention. --Milliams 16:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- landuse=farm is for agrigcultural land. That's what the tag which we already have established ...is for. I dont see the point in this proposal -- Harry Wood 09:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Then perhaps an agriculture tag is needed. Since such a vastly huge amount of the earth's surface is agricultural, I think it deserves special attention. --Milliams 16:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- this is not true. farm, field/pasture and cropland/tillage are not overlaping, but complement each other --Cbm 15:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- this proposal appears to overlap significantly Crop and and landuse=farm. please clarify, or it will be removed on 2008-01-18
- This discussion fits well to the landuse=vineyard discussion. Since each area on the planet has its own way and culture to grow food, the landuse tag might deserve some protection at this point. A combination of landuse=agriculture and produce=xyz seems to make sense for my understanding.--ThomasKlosa 01:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Why not just use landuse=agriculture that would be intuitive to me? Further details could be given by produce=cattle/corn/vine/vegetables/fallow/etc. In most cases it would be just crops, cattle or fallow, because the sort of crops (corn, asparagus, potatoes, etc) changes to often. The current usage of landuse=farm for the farmLAND (ie. fields) is just irritating. -- Fröstel 14:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Why irritating? fields (the farmLAND) are part of the farm, hence it is tagged landuse=farm -- Harry Wood 09:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- landuse=agriculture, produce=cattle/sheep/pigs/chickens (possibly "animals" ?), produce=crops, produce=vineyard etc would make sense to me. Fields could then be tagged per-boundary - as Milliams said, the planet has a vast amount of agriculture and therefore it makes sense to have more than one or two tags for it. --trs998 23:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- The justification for this proposal is that tagging landuse=farm over all the agricultural areas of countryside, would be "insane"... This problem has already been noted and discussion is ongoing here: Talk:Tag:landuse=farm#Very large swathes of land So now to solve this problem we're doing what? inventing a new tag for all the areas of agricultural land? I don't see the point in this proposal. -- Harry Wood 09:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- The confusion here is the choice of the word "farm" - that should denote a specific farm (with border), not farmland in general. If we were starting from scratch, we would have "landuse=agriculture". Then, within a landuse area, we would denote specific paddocks/fields with a different tag, much like you can have a leisure=pitch within a leisure=sport_centre, and a shop=* within a landuse=commercial.
- Given that we're not starting from scratch, I suggest:
- Keep "landuse=farm" as the general tag for agricultural zoning, making it clear that it doesn't refer to *a farm.
- Add farm=* tags, like farm=field, farm=pasture, farm=barn to mark specific the purposes of specific areas.
- Stevage 03:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmmm interesting. We're grappling with some weird little international misunderstanding here, and maybe you've hit upon it. If one were to talk about "a farm" then indeed that would denote a specific farm (with border) It might include farmland of that farm, but not farmland in general. This is true. BUT when reading the tag "landuse=farm" I, as an Englishman, have no problem interpreting that to mean an area of farmland in general. Maybe the way german people read it, they have a tendency to equate "farm" with "a farm", so it's almost like reading "landuse=a farm" ...hence to German people the landuse=farm tag feels like it doesn't apply well to farmland in general. Does that sound right? -- Harry Wood 14:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
