User:Alux/Collaboration with Wikivoyage

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Wikivoyage - the free worldwide travel guide offers a lot of scope for cross-project collaboration.

  • There is obvious immediate potential for illustrating Wikivoyage articles with slippy maps (This is the main area to focus on)
  • We could link from the OSM wiki to Wikivoyage
  • We could link from Wikivoyage to the OSM Wiki
  • We could also link to Wikivoyage and Wikipedia articles from within the OSM map data with Wikidata

Why collaborate?

OpenStreetMap stands to benefit. We increase awareness and drive user traffic to OSM. Ultimately we want people to use OpenStreetMap, but at this stage we are particularly interested in attracting more mappers and more developers.

Wikivoyage stands to benefit. Linking to street maps is all very well, but a lot of articles about places can be enhanced by having a slippy map embedded on the page. OpenStreetMap is the best way to do this, while still presenting only open licensed content on the page -- in fact, it's almost the only way.

Wikivoyage Dynamic maps Expedition

There is an active Wikivoyage Expedition page on Wikivoyage which should provide guidance to Wikivoyagers on how to create maps for use in Wikivoyage articles. Hopefully this process will be easy enough to be followed for many Wikivoyage articles.

Note the project page is in addition to the actual Wikivoyage about OpenStreetMap.

Illustrating Wikipedia article maps

This is the main area where there's lots of obvious potential. We should get onto Wikivoyage and add maps or upload images and add coordinates to illustrate some of the articles describing places.

Wikivoyagers will take offense if we plaster lots of low quality images on there. Obviously we need to pick only areas where we have achieved a good level of mapping coverage, and where the rendering comes out well to produced maps which are actually useful. Note that we can upload quite large images, but it is preferred that an image looks good and is useful in its thumbnailed form, appearing on the article page itself. For maps this might mean the street name text should be readable in the thumbnail. That is actually quite a tricky restriction to work with (pick zoom level and thumbnail size carefully)

Attribution requirement

If you use the slippy map, the attribution is taken care of.

Map images from OSM are covered by the OpenStreetMap License, and so require attribution. More general details can be found on the Legal FAQ.

Technical enhancement to Wikivoyage

[Wikivoyage Dynamic maps expedition] Lists various ways to add maps to Wikivoyage Articles.

Obviously these things need careful assessment by Wikivoyage people before they roll them out across Wikivoyage.

OSM-integration

On all pages, it is possible to add a slippy map by incuding the {{Mapframe}} template then adding coordinates to the {{PoiMap2}} template. The {{listing/sandbox}} template is a work-in-progress.

[This feature] shows Wikivoyage articles on the OSM map, although it seems to miss a few articles.

Link from OSM wiki to Wikivoyage

We should do this!

Linking from Wikivoyage to OSM

The best place to link from Wikipedia to OSM is on image description pages for the map images we upload there. It's a good idea to link to the map, with a 'permalink' pointing at the relevant place on the map (URL with lat/lon/zoom)

The image description page must link to www.openstreetmap.org/copyright.

To simplify setting up image descriptions there are various templates which you might like to use. See wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject OpenStreetMap#Templates

sl.wikipedia has some templates set up too : List of streets in Ljubljana (using a template)

Some wikipedia articles, like rivers and long streets, may be enhanced by linking to the OSM object, for example wikipedia:Jukskei River.

The French and English wikipedias (and many others) now include a "coord" template inserted in the article (with the geographic coordinates and a suitable zoom parameter) that allows displaying links showing coordinates at the top of the article page. One of this link will bring you to a generic page allowing you to search the location on various mapping services (including OpenStreetmap), and another link showing a slippy map (rendered on Wikimedia tile servers) within a closable panel appearing directly on top of the article itself. Many articles now include the call to the "coord" template (usually inserted at the top, or preferably ar the bottom of the article). Other templates may be inserted to show other coordinates for other more specific locations discussed in the body of the article, that will link to the generic page for choosing your online mapping service.

Logged on users on Wikipedia may also configure their account to avoid the generic selection page and display directly the map on the mapping service of their choice (there are plugins available for this that uers may activate in their own Wikipedia account preferences), or create their own personal extension (using javascript stored in their own personal subpages, and named according to their selected skin (such as "Special:Userpage/Vector.js" or "Special:Userpage/Monobook.js").

Link to Wikipedia articles from within the OSM map data

We can link features of the map to Wikivoyage articles.

See Wikidata.

How these links might be rendered/used, is a something people can decide on their own external projects/websites. The obvious use would be 'pins' with links on a Slippy Map. For Wikipedia it would be interesting to draw the real OSM-objects (that were linked to Wikivoyage-article) in a map inside the Wikivoyage-article.

Other usages will be translations by using Wikivoyage Interwikilinks or to exchange other data.

A tool to create such links is JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl/Add-tags.

You can also link to Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository, using media:commons.


Importing geodata from Wikivoyage

Wikipedia articles are often geocoded, and it has been suggested that we should import data from wikipedia (for example, using the pages on villages in a particular country to add place=village nodes). However, it is believed that a small proportion of wikipedia's coordinate data is derived from Google Maps, and so isn't actually available under the stated license. For this reason, it is unclear if we will import data from Wikivoyage

There seems a high potential to use the interwikilinks of Wikivoyage to translate geographical objects in different languages. Also other data like the population of a city could be check with help of Wikidata. For such a usage there should be no legal problems.


Identifying users

   Needs checking/implementing
  • To identify yourself as an OSM editor on Wikivoyage, place {{User OSM}} on your Wikivoyage user page.
  • To identify yourself as a Wikivoyage editor on OSM, place {{Wikipedia user}} on your OSM wiki user page, with the Wikipedia's language and your Wikipedia username, thus: {{Wikipedia user|en|Pigsonthewing}}.

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