User talk:Gendy54

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Enfin il n'y a plus de page doublon :-). Reste plus qu'à compléter pour faciliter la venue des nouveaux contributeurs... !

Désolé je suis pas sûr de tout comprendre à la discussion sur le wiki... mais pour la capture d'écran je l'avais fais avec gimp et je te rassure c'était aussi galère... Je vais voir si y a pas moyen de faire mieux !

C'est très intéressant ton PDF, ça me permet de réviser certaines notions que j'avais apprises sur le tas :-). Ça vaudrait le coup de la rendre disponible sur la page du wiki et peut-être sur openstreetmap.fr (par exemple ici ?). Je suis d'accord que la marche d'entrée dans BANO est relativement haute et qu'un travail de communication pourrait simplifier tout cela comme ton PPT en est un bon exemple, même si cela est un support pour une présentation orale.

J'ai commencé à faire cartographier "pour de vrai" lorsque j'ai découvert BANO en juillet, et j'avoue avoir eu beaucoup de mal pour plusieurs raisons :

  1. Déjà trouver le projet BANO - lorsqu'on demande "qu'est-ce que je peux faire pour aider ?", la réponse que je vois le + est "fais ce qu'il te plaît !". J'aurai aimé voir un "si vraiment tu ne sais pas quoi faire, tu peux dégommer du rouge sur BANO" :-)
  2. À l'époque, la page du Wiki était très (beaucoup trop) technique - ça parlait directement de FANTOIR, etc. ... même aujourd'hui, je trouve cela obscure ! Je pense qu'on a un peu simplifié la page du wiki, j'espère que les nouveaux s'y retrouveront un peu mieux
  3. Difficile de trouver des "contacts" à qui poser des contacts. J'ai depuis rajouter la section "Canaux_de_discussion" sur le wiki pour faciliter cet aspect.
  4. Difficile aussi de s'y retrouver dans la légende du rendu BANO - police en gras, italique, gris, rouge, etc. ... beaucoup de nuances possibles qui ne sont pas franchement clair de mon point de vue. Encore aujourd'hui, pour moi "dégommer du rouge" est la seule chose que j'ai retenue ;-).
  5. Idem pour http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/, en tant que néophyte c'est difficile de comprendre à quoi ça sert / comment s'en servir : ceux sont des outils très utile une fois qu'on les maîtrise, mais il n'y a pas de prise en main donc au début on (je) patauge.
  6. Comment gérer les cas tordus ou "pourquoi le rapprochement fonctionne pas alors que j'ai tout fais comme il faut". Il y a quelques cas particuliers disponible sur la page "Comment contribuer" que je rajoute au fur et à mesure (comment tagguer un lotissement, etc.). Heureusement qu'il y a le canal IRC pour poser les questions aux experts vdct / cquest ! Je vois que tu rajoutes des sections aussi, c'est cool ;-).

Pour moi tous ces points ont été des difficultés à surmonter à un moment ou à un autre... et je vise à ce que ce ne soit plus le cas pour mon prochain ;-).

Calendrier des événements

Fais attention quand tu ajoutes un événement au calendrier: La liste est ordonnée stristement par date (en haut la date la plus ancienne, en bas la date la plus future).

En plus vérifie les dates: tu as indiqué le 29 mai (date du passé que j'ai failli supprimer car on n'ajoute pas d'événéments du passé, on ne fait qu'archiver dans une autre page les événements qui ont été annoncés dans les temps...) au lieu du 29 juin (qui aurait du être inséré plus bas dans le calendrier).

Merci. — Verdy_p (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Chief of OSM France

Hi Gendy54,

I'm writing for the OSM weekly notice. May you please tell me Gaël's username in OSM? I would to like on him.--Ethylisocyanat (talk) 21:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Fire_Service

Hi Gendy54,

Nice work!

Of the various options you've put forward, I think that fire_service=* is the better choice.

That would also tie in to fire_service=office (I think it should be singular, rather than plural?) & =academy.

I think I'll also make a late change to my own proposal to make it lifeguard=office, rather than office=lifeguard. As part of the military_base proposal, I had included office=military, based on the fact that everything else in OSM is done that way eg office=accountant, office=lawyer, but it was pointed out to me that military=office already exists!

As part of the ongoing emergency= project, I will be suggesting moving fire_station from it's existing amenity=, to also become emergency=. I can already hear the screams that that suggestion will generate!

Graeme --Fizzie41 (talk) 05:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Missing file information

Hello! And thanks for your upload - but some extra info is necessary.

Sorry for bothering you about this, but it is important to know source of the uploaded files.

Are you the creator of image File:French firefighter academy in Calvados.jpg ?

Or is it copied from some other place (which one?)?

Please, add this info to the file page - something like "I took this photo" or "downloaded from -website link-" or "I took this screeshot of program XYZ" or "this is map generated from OpenStreetMap data and SRTM data" or "map generated from OSM data and only OSM data" or "This is my work based on file -link-to-page-with-that-file-and-its-licensing-info-" or "used file downloaded from internet to create it, no idea which one".

Doing this would be already very useful.

Licensing - photos

In case that you are the author of the image: Would you agree to open licensing of this image, allowing its use by anyone (similarly to your OSM edits)?

In case where it is a photo you (except relatively rare cases) author can make it available under a specific free license.

Would you be OK with CC0 (it allows use without attribution or any other requirement)?

Or do you prefer to require attribution and some other things using CC-BY-SA-4.0?

If you are the author: Please add {{CC0-self}} to the file page to publish the image under CC0 license.

You can also use {{CC-BY-SA-4.0-self|Gendy54}} to publish under CC-BY-SA-4.0 license.

Once you add missing data - please remove {{Unknown|subcategory=uploader notified March 2022}} from the file page.

Licensing - other images

If it is not a photo situation gets a bit more complicated.

See Drafts/Media file license chart that may help.

note: if you took screenshot of program made by someone else, screenshot of OSM editor with aerial imagery: then licensing of that elements also matter and you are not a sole author.

note: If you downloaded image made by someone else then you are NOT the author.

Note that in cases where photo is a screenshot of some software interface: usually it is needed to handle also copyright of software itself.

Note that in cases where aerial imagery is present: also licensing of an aerial imagery matter.

Help

Feel free to ask for help if you need it - you can do it for example by asking on Talk:Wiki: new topic.

Please ask there if you are not sure what is the proper next step. Especially when you are uploading files that are not your own work or are derivative work (screenshots, composition of images, using aerial imagery etc).

If you are interested in wider discussion about handling licencing at OSM Wiki, see this thread.

(sorry if I missed something that already states license and source: I am looking through over 20 000 files and fixing obvious cases on my own, in other I ask people who upladed files, but it is possible that I missed something - in such case also please answer)

--Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Attribution

Hello! And sorry for bothering you, but descriptions of files you uploaded need to be improved.

You have uploaded files which are licensed as requiring attribution. But right now attribution is not specified properly.

Please, ask for help if something is confusing or unclear in this message.

Please, fix that problem with this uploads - note that images with unclear licensing situation may be deleted.

Attribution may be missing completely or just be specified in nonstandard way, in either case it needs to be improved. Note that using CC-BY files without specifying attribution is a copyright violation, which is often unethical and unwanted. So clearly specifying required attribution is needed if license which makes attribution mandatory was used.

If it is applying to your own work which not based on work by others - then you can select own user name or some other preferred attribution or even change license to for example {{CC0-self}}

For your own work: ensure that it is clearly stated at file page that you created image/took the photo/etc

For works by others - please ensure that there is link to the original source which confirms license and that you used proper attribution, or that source is clearly stated in some other way.

Especially for old OSM-baded maps, made from data before license change on 12 September 2012 you should use "map data © OpenStreetMap contributors" as at least part of attribution

For old OSM Carto maps, which predate license change on 12 September 2012 you can use a special template {{OSM Carto screenshot||old_license}}

Attribution

Hello! And sorry for bothering you, but description of file you uploaded need to be improved.

You have uploaded file which is licensed as requiring attribution. But right now attribution is not specified properly.

Please, ask for help if something is confusing or unclear in this message.

Please, fix that problem with this uploads - note that images with unclear licensing situation may be deleted.

Attribution may be missing completely or just be specified in nonstandard way, in either case it needs to be improved. Note that using CC-BY files without specifying attribution is a copyright violation, which is often unethical and unwanted. So clearly specifying required attribution is needed if license which makes attribution mandatory was used.

If it is applying to your own work which not based on work by others - then you can select own user name or some other preferred attribution or even change license to for example {{CC0-self}}

For files which are solely your own work: ensure that it is clearly stated at file page that you created image/took the photo/etc

For works by others - please ensure that there is link to the original source which confirms license and that you used proper attribution, or that source is clearly stated in some other way. This applies when you took screeshot, made map from OSM data and so on.

Especially for old OSM-baded maps, made from data before license change on 12 September 2012 you should use "map data © OpenStreetMap contributors" as at least part of attribution

For old OSM Carto maps, which predate license change on 12 September 2012 you can use a special template {{OSM Carto screenshot||old_license}}

Note: Maybe the current license on this file is wrong and a different one should be used! Wiki:Media file license chart may be helpful. If unsure, ask on Talk:Wiki