User talk:PeeWee32

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Non-compulsory roadside cycleways

Hi PW,

adding this in the talk about bicycyle=use_sidepath would make the thread too complicated.

Therefore I write it on your personal talk page:

Unfortunaltely, in the Netherlands, there are very few non compulsory roadside cycleways. But one of them I've used in the first week of passed October, the Stadhouderstraat in Arnhem:,5.926711&spn=0.0023,0.003707&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.978192,5.926711&panoid=c8r-iho_nlbKNAbeA8Bl_A&cbp=12,259.41,,0,0

Bremen, where I am living since 1980, is the city with the most kilometers of cycleways in Germany, and the most advanced in abolishing compulsoriness. Meanwhile, for about 90% of the roadside cycleways there is free choice for cyclists between carriageway and cycleway. And of course, I'm always lucky when I can change a bicycle=use_sidepath to bicycle=yes.--Ulamm (talk) 14:13, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

If I understand correctly there are mappers in Bremen that put a bicyle=use_sidepath on a road next to a non compulsory cycleway. Well I think we agree that that is not correct. Have you contacted the mapper that did this? Sure you could change it to bicycle=yes but the mapper might still make the same mistake in other cities. PeeWee32 (talk) 14:22, 1 november 2014 (UTC)

((direct answer:))
  • Really, there is a mapper in Bremen, who tagged some cycletracks as compulsory without local research, but that does not matter for our discussion.
  • "I'm always lucky when I can change" means that the process of spreading free choice is still going on. Every few weeks some more streets get rid of the blue signs.