Talk:Parking

Discuss the Parking page here:

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node/area conflict discussion

This discussion should be made on the basis of ANY node/area conflict. Car Parks are just another example of an inherent problem in the way POI type data is loaded Lsces 08:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. This discussion and vote applies to all kinds of stuff. It's a general mapping principle, and now it has been enshrined as a widely accepted good practice mapping principle called One feature, one OSM element applying to the way we treat nodes and areas in general. This discussion and vote was always too specific, and is not outdated and irreverent. I will now blow away the whole lot of it, and replace with information about parking. -- Harry Wood 14:43, 19 June 2012 (BST)

Move from 'Car Park' to 'Parking'

In the spirit of feature pages I have moved this article to allow for a wider discussion of parking of any vehicle or device (including bicycles). PeterIto 10:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

We now need to turn this into a feature page. Currently it isn't. It's a mess. But I'm about to clean it up (see below)

-- Harry Wood 14:43, 19 June 2012 (BST)

Cleanup_Request

This page should describe all kind of parking facilities like parking areas, parking on streets, parkinghouses. It should also cover parking of bicycles and other types of vehicles. Old discussion currently on it should be moved either to a discussion page or to a separate page. User:RM87 11:53, 6 April 2012

Yes the page currently carries a discussion and vote about node/area problem which is (as mentioned above) outdated and irrelevant. I'll blow it away and...

For the moment I'll just link to some tags (mainly amenity=parking) for the moment. But we can flesh this out with more "feature page" description.

-- Harry Wood 14:43, 19 June 2012 (BST)

How to map parking

I noticed no real direction on how to map parking, and I think it needs to be covered. I'm all for the way google has you map it, the parking lot goes all the way out to the road, of there is one. for example, a square parking lot on the corner of two roads: It's borders would go all the way out to the two roads the border it, but only go out to the borders of the lot itself on the other two sides. I a defenition like this would make the map more consistent and easy to use for outsiders (non mappers). ) P.S. do I have to do the 4 ~'s thing? Northern Pyro (talk) 20:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The above doesn't make much sense to me. A parking area usually has a boundary of some sort -- maybe a fence. The area outside the fence is not part of the parking area. If we extend the parking area to the road, then it implies cars can also park on the pavement -- but that is usually not the case. On OSM we typically try to map things in more detail than google -- which means aiming to be more precise. Falsely extending a boundary to the road reduces precision unnecessarily. Its not the way OSM has done it, in any area I've looked at. We should continue to do things more intelligently and not copy google on this. User:harg 13:27, 01 February 2016 (UTC)

Needs more explaination on how to map a surface parking lot. Does the entire area of aspalt get included? Only the places with parking spaces? For a single vehicle that passes between the shops and the parking spaces, is that service=parking_aisle or just highway=service? More details and illustrations, please! Mtc (talk) 12:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

So in order to reply both to Northern Pyro and harg, my experience mapping parking lots and seeing others mapped is that they are done in a couple different ways. 1. Map all the way to the road 2. Map most limited extent of parking defined by lines that run parallel with the last parking lot to the parking aisle/road/service road to the other side of the road or parking spot corner. the second definition is a bit harder to do and I don't think either method has any real benefits as far as I am aware. IanVG (talk) 13:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

How to map an underground parking facility

Apart from the abandoned Relations/Proposed/Site, how can we tag an underground parking facility with multiple entries/exits and no known shape? The link about parking_entrance mentions that site relation, but using it removes functionality versus tagging every entry/exit with amenity=parking (which doesn't respect One feature, one OSM element). Should Relations/Proposed/Site be restarted, at least for the parking facilities? The RedBurn (talk) 14:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

While site relations aren't that established in general, there has been a successful proposal on using them for this particular use case. So I believe the style of mapping described on Tag:amenity=parking_entrance is fine to use. --Tordanik 17:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Types of car park

It would greatly help if editors could be more particular about adding access tags. Currently a visitor cannot rely on being able to use a car park that appears on the map because it may turn out to belong to a nearby building and then may or may not be available even to visitors. In all cases, using access=public, access=destination or access=private would help. Maybe we should also have additional tags such as visitors=yes/no staff=yes/no. Where it it is not obvious, a tag destination=Somesuch House tag could indicate the allowed destination of those who the car park.

Strongly agreed. An access tag should be a compulsory addition to amenity=parking. But currently it makes no difference to the renderer, unless the area also has service=parking_aisle and that has an access=private tag. Even then, the distinction is only visible at zoom 18 or 19. I'm not sure where we discuss the renderer, but a clear distinction between public and private areas at all zooms where the area is visible would tend to encourage proper mapping. User:harg 13:27, 01 February 2016 (UTC)

Wholeheartedly agree. Without an access=destination tag, the parking area appears to be public parking, when in fact shops will tow and empound your vehicle if it is not there for the purpose of shopping. It would be better not to know about such a parking area, at all. This is super important information for a vehicle map. You use openstreetmap to drive, but eventually you need to stop and park. OSM does the user a disservice by pointing to every paved area as permissible parking. Mtc (talk) 12:45, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I have finished changing all my local parking lots to include access=customers (for retail areas) and access=private (for business areas). The destination key - mentioned above - is not recommended. Further, I changed all public parking areas with access=yes , and I included fee=yes for non-free public parking. I feel this presents useful information to people looking to park their car, and it also renders private parking with a much lighter shade. Makes me feel better about being surrounded by parking areas, on the map. --Mtc (talk) 04:56, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Parking Tollbooth - Request

I have seen many parking areas that have a building at the entry that contains a person collecting fees. I have not found a good way to map these structures, and I have been entering them as tourist=information which is clearly not their purpose. They function like tollbooths, except this wiki defines barrier=toll_booth as a device for limiting road access. I believe parking areas should have something defined, as this tollbooth feature is important as a landmark and as a resource for help and information. Please share your thoughts here if you agree. --Mtc (talk) 04:50, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

The Tag:barrier=toll_booth page recommends using barrier=lift_gate and fee=yes. I think this should be added here under "Useful combinations" --Yrtimid (talk) 00:39, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Loading only

I can not find any satisfactory way to map parking spaces that are loading only. (Specifically 6 road side diagonal but the problem is more generic than that). Malcolm Boura (talk) 17:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

• "loading only" So only customers loading something bought from store may use it? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:45, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

These are public road and it?is a road sign stating the prohibition.

• Can you share a photo of location? Situation is still unclear for me Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
• Photos as requested. It is part of the public highway and there is no restriction on what can be loaded/unloaded. Malcolm Boura (talk) 13:45, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

truck parking lot

How to tag truck parking lots? maro21 20:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• I added hgv=designated and access=no for truck only parking lot Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:22, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

E-Scooter Parking

How would you go about tagging designated e-scooter parking spaces? I know a place where such spots have been specifically designated for places where people that charge the scooters place them for people to use, and I believe people, after using them, are supposed to park them there as well. Three instances of "amenity=escooter_parking" can be found on overpass turbo, should I add this tag to this page? --TobyL86 (talk) 08:27, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

There are also

• amenity=scooter_parking with 54 uses
• amenity=kick_scooter_parking with 8 uses

It depends what scooters you mean, the term "scooter" in English is ambigous. It also depends if we want to distinguish between these scooters and have a separate tag for each. maro21 17:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

What I mean are electric scooters offered by commercial providers like Bird, Tier, Lime or Voi. I believe amenity=scooter_parking and amenity=kick_scooter_parking referr to "analog" kick scooters, most commonly used by children. amenity=electric_kick_scooter_parking and amenity=e_scooter_parking exist in that space but they are seldomly used (3 and 1 times, respectively). Considering these options, I'd advocate for using electric_kick_scooter_parking, as it's the least ambiguous. --TobyL86 (talk) 19:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

I think all of *_scooter parkings are for the electric kick scooters offered by commercial providers. Because it is unlikely that someone will designate parking for other types of scooters. Non electric kick scooters are probably taken by the owners, because it would be easy to steal them. Motorcycle-like scooters are big enough so they don't have either their designated parking lots, so they use car or motorcycle parking spaces. maro21 21:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure, but I looked at some instances of amenity=scooter_parking, and they were all placed in schools or playgrounds, suggesting that they might be actual parking spaces for non-electric kick scooters, though I agree with you that such spaces are unusual. scooter_parking is much more ambiguous than electric_kick_scooter_parking, so I'd still suggest going with that and, when people get to check scooter_pakring or kick_scooter_parking sites, they can review what fits best. --TobyL86 (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Parking blocks

https://copavementsolutions.com/what-is-the-cement-block-in-a-parking-lot-called/ need a way to be mapped.

Imagine a field, and the only feature is rows of these.

How about barrier=kerb two_sided=yes? And we could just us a single way instead of marking each one like:

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Jidanni (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

According to TagInfo, barrier=parking_bumper seems to be in use for them. I think, you can either use this tag on a way or on single nodes. --Supaplex030 (talk) 09:39, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Yellow no parking stripes

There are dense yellow stripes on the pavement meaning don't park here.

But no way to tag them. Jidanni (talk) 00:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Guessing: amenity=parking access=no . Jidanni (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Do you have a photo? If you can't park there, it sounds like a "troll tag" to me to use amenity=parking.

On the street center line, I would use parking:*=no + parking:*:reason=markings. If the parking there is mapped separately, just leave that area out of the amenity=parking areas (if necessary area:highway=prohibited or similar fits for the markings themselves, but actually OSM lacks a marking scheme for that). --Supaplex030 (talk) 06:25, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

maps.app.goo.gl/iu4UtLLEyja6mUhW7 is the photo. I didn't even notice it had cones or the word fire lane. Pretend those weren't present perhaps. Jidanni (talk) 18:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your answer on Talk:Tag:amenity=parking#No_parking_areas_within_parking_areas. Jidanni (talk) 11:32, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Do there have to be parking lines?

People park on both sides of my street, for example, but there are no actual lines. I have marked as "on street, parallel orientation." Is that accurate, or should parking be left blank completely? --OpenUser502 (talk) 18:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)