Talk:Tag:amenity=ferry terminal

Contents 1 Connections 2 Icon 3 Comments 4 Ferry Terminal Exists During Season Only

Connections

Node is connected via highway=service to the road, and by route=ferry to another terminal? Ojw 23:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

depends on how passengers access it. the ones in downtown auckland are walk-on only, so there will be a pathway connecting to the road (or other transport hub, as with circular quay in sydney), the same as there is for railway station, bus stations, etc. drive-on ferries would be a service road, yes. and yes, it would then be connected to another termainal(s) by a ferry route Myfanwy 03:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Icon

The Icon should be a simplified picture of a boat, on water. Possibly in blue against white.

Maybe something like this: http://www.sodipodi.com/clipart/mapsymbols/boatservice.svg ? -- Ulfl 21:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

great stuff, just what i was looking for. do we need one for foot passengers, one for vehicles? Myfanwy 02:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess no real need and we might better prevent too much icons - this usually can be derived from the way (highway=service or footway) going from the terminal to the ship ? -- Ulfl 03:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

ok to your first point, although the cargo tag is a better way of distinguishing Myfanwy 20:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Good idea for tag. would amenity=ferry be easier to write? Ojw 23:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

possibly. although i like to stick to the idea of tags being as ovious as possible. ferry implies the vehicle (yes, i know we don't put ferries on OSM, but it still introduces ambiguity i think), this is specifically for the terminal Myfanwy 23:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree - It could be confused with route=ferry (the path the ferry takes). --Cohort

• concerning the 'ref' tag: yes, good idea. in fact, we could add some tag that shows the destination of ferries from each dock Myfanwy 01:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Where I am, ferries are considered part of the state highway system and therefore given 'state route' numbers, so if ref is otherwise in use, where should this information go? --Cohort

ok, so we could change the ref tag to 'dock' and add a 'destination' tag as well Myfanwy 02:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Another thing to think about.. On a certain ferry route that I have been on, there is a staging/ticketing area for vehicles that is separated by a considerable distance (several city blocks) from the dock/passenger terminal. Any suggestion on this situation? --Cohort

my first thought: it might look odd, but if that is the entrance to the ferry (which is really what we are marking), then that is the ferry terminal. of course, there would then be a service road to the actual ferry terminal. but i'm not 100%. maybe a ferry terminal needs to be represented by (optionally) an area as well as a point, to reflect that's it's not just a insignificantly sized object? Myfanwy 06:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Happy to vote for this as is. In particular, it finishes (?) the suite of railway=station, amenity=bus_stop, amenity=ferry_terminal for urban transport. MikeCollinson 20:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

apart from: trams; monorails; publicly-funded travelators (i'm sure somewhere has them); publicly-funded, free taxis (Auckland has lots of these around christmas shopping time) and whatever other methods of transport places with extreme weather, etc have. long way to go yet Myfanwy 20:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• in the interests of getting this proposal moving, i've removed the parts concerning route numbers and docks, relations are still not developed to a point where this info can be included easily (unless you know better...?). it now mirrors 'bus_terminal' Myfanwy 19:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• Proposed features/Cable ferry has been removed from the proposal list, it is now included under this proposal Myfanwy 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• do we need an extra key to mark cable ferries? or is that feature irrelevant, and not map-worthy? Myfanwy 19:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• This is good. One of my Bete Noir's with my own car Sat-nav (Navteq based) is that it doesn't admit Red Funnel Ferries exist, I'd like to be one (more) up on them :) I like the detail. --DrMark 22:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ferry Terminal Exists During Season Only

What tag do I use to specify that the ferry terminal is in the water from May to October and stored somewhere else from November to April? That's the case for some steam boat terminals in Dresden. --holgermappt 22:10, 9 January 2010 (UTC)