User:Mvexel/Welcome Working Group/report121213
The Welcome WG met today (12/13/12) to discuss ways of easing entry of new mappers into OSM. Next meeting will be 20 Dec 2012.
The meeting focused on two primary areas: new user engagement and retention stats and documentation and entry path to OSM, with more of an emphasis on the documentation and entry path to OSM.
Number 1 takeaway for non WG-members: there's a lot of good stuff going on with learnosm. If you're interested, check it out: https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/1
Other topics: possible need for a Documentation WG & a Welcome WG mailing list.
Attendees/active IRCers included: Martijn van Exel, SomeoneElse, PovAddict, Manfred, RichardF, sabas, tmcw, LMC, jeffmeyer, alexbarth, shaunmcdonald & potential lurkers (lezurdis, Caterpillar, Blackadder, cypher...)
- Premise: we should pick some metrics for measuring how well/poorly we're doing with welcoming mappers to OSM. (jeffmeyer)
- There are some past studies of end user behavior worth checking out.
- And opportunities for studying new users in local outreach efforts - we could use better feedback from this outreach (alexbarth)
- Sample template email to send local new mappers: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/new_mapper_messages (SomeoneElse)
- Segmentation of users could help design better paths for them through (sabas, others)
- New Users -> learnosm.org
- Commercial users -> switch2osm
- Experts, nerds, addicts -> wiki
- We may want to survey past, inactive users (jeffmeyer)
- Need to consult with Welcome WG on survey design & OSMF on restrictions for outreach (RichardF, mvexel)
- Not everyone will be a lifelong mapper (mvexel), but we should learn if they leave due to OSM not being their bag or out of frustration
- ACTION: jeffmeyer to put together a summary of stats that might be helpful for measuring retention quality - it's not straightforward
- Have we analyzed how people get started in OSM & where they go astray? (jeffmeyer)
- Several sites were identified as being separate from OSM, but potentially could be tied / integrated more tightly into the core OSM site:
- There are many good resources for newbies, but it can be easy for people to get lost as they go through the front door *-#toomanychoices?
- openstreetmap.org / Documentation: takes you to wiki.openstreetmap.org, with separate login
- openstreetmap.org / Help Centre: takes you to help.openstreetmap.org, with a separate login
- learnosm.org (if you can find it)
- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Help:Contents lists several other places to go for help
- Whatever is built into your editor flavor of choice
- In spite of all of these resources, HOT has chosen to build new docs: https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/1 (alexbarth)
- (As in - existing resources weren't meeting needs for getting HOT's volunteers up to speed (jeffmeyer))
- Value of docs created and maintained by people who train on a regular basis is a huge help for these docs' value (alexbarth)
- Many questions about how various editors influence new mappers' behavior (RichardF ;) )
- e.g. current learnosm.org resources point at JOSM & QGIS, but not Potlatch, which might be easier entry
- Current thinking on iD is that it will have tightly integrated documentation (alexbarth, RichardF)
- Much side conversation about the role / status / usability of the wiki as documentation (various)
- This is left for a separate thread
- One example of a training program for students & beginners (Manfred)
- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comenius_OSM_and_Tourism - schools bringing students to OSM (Manfred)
- General consensus was that there are concerns in using a wiki for documentation (ironically...)
- Github was cited as a suggested better alternative, with the example of its use for current Learnosm improvements: https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/1 (alexbarth, tmcw)
- ACTION: Welcome WG members to review the documentation being planned at https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/1