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:Most of those are translations of [[Map Features]], which is also monstrously long and probably just narrowly escapes the limit. However, I recall it being recently mentioned somewhere (can't find it at the moment) on the Community Forum, and some members said they found it useful to have everything in one place. So, unless we do some major restructuring, I'm not sure how we can reconcile that. [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 13:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
:Following the trail from the github discussion, it was possibly [https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/cuisine-tags-in-map-features/5882 https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/cuisine-tags-in-map-features/5882 Cuisine tags in Map Features]. But I still don't see we reached a firm consensus what to do with those. [[User:Duja|Duja]] ([[User talk:Duja|talk]]) 14:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Map features too huge ==
 
Please take a look at [[Ko:Map Features]] or at [[Map features]]. How long do these pages take to load on your computer? How many errors do they show?<br>
I see a lot of "{{Font color|red|Lua error: Internal error: The interpreter has terminated with signal "24"}}".<br>
These pages are too huge. Aren't they trying to include almost all the Wiki content in one article? Does that make sense?<br>
– Do you want to display a list of all the shops? Here are the solutions:
* [[Key:shop]]
* [[:Category:Shops]]
* [[:Category:Tag descriptions for key "shop"]]
* https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values
And these are probably not all possible solutions.<br>
– Want to display a list of all buildings? Here are the solutions:
* [[Key:building]]
* [[:Category:Buildings]]
* [[:Category:Tag descriptions for key "building"]]
* https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building#values<br>
– Want to see what's rendering on the map?
* We have [[SymbolsTab]], [[LinesTab]] and [[AreasTab]]
 
Is there a compelling reason why it all has to be together on one page? I think not. When this page was created, years ago, it probably wasn't a problem, because there were fewer tags and no data items. Now the article has grown to such a size that in addition to the long loading time (no one likes to wait long for a page to load, but that's not the only problem), there are technical errors that we can't avoid due to MediaWiki's limitations. There's the Lua bug already mentioned above, but there's also a limitation with data items that only allows 250 references, and at 251 you'll always get the {{Font color|red|Too many Data Items entities accessed}} error, even though the other references will display correctly.
 
So, taking into account: the size of the page, the limitation of the software, unavoidable errors, and the fact that this is a frequently visited page (the English version and the other language versions involved), because the link to it is in the main menu on the Wiki, I propose that in these articles the transclusions of the templates be replaced by links, as it is, for example, on [[Pl:Obiekty na mapie]]. This is just one possible solution, quick to implement, but I am open to other suggestions.<br>
Reasons why I think that keeping such a huge article is not good:
* very long page loading
* limitation of MediaWiki software and bugs that we cannot avoid
* we have a very well working search engine and it's easy to find the tags you are looking for
* one can use Taginfo
* this page is not irreplaceable, but it consists of snippets that can be found elsewhere (in articles, templates and [[:Category:Map Features template|category]])
I can do it myself, starting with the English version of Map features. Does anyone have a valid reason why the current state should remain? [[User:Maro21|maro21]] 22:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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