Proposed features/Ice cream

Ice cream
Status:	Approved (active)
Proposed by:	FedericoCozzi
Tagging:	amenity=ice_cream
Applies to:
Definition:	A shop which sells ice creams; an ice-cream parlour
Rendered as:	An ice cream cone
Draft start:	2009-02-18
RFC start:	2010-03-05
Vote start:	2010-09-01
Vote end:	2010-09-15

Contents 1 Executive summary 2 Current use 3 Rationale 4 How to tag 5 Photo 6 Usefulness 7 Voting

Executive summary

Ice cream shops are already mapped but there is no standard way. This proposal wants to standardize the way ice cream shops are tagged as amenity=ice_cream.

Current use

As of 2010-09-01, there are about 475 amenity=ice_cream [1] and about 211 shop=ice_cream [2].

Rationale

This proposal suggests amenity=ice_cream for the following reasons:

• provides a way to tag all the ice cream shops that aren't either a cafe, a restaurant or a fast food.
• it is supported by more software, including JOSM and Gosmore
• it is similar to amenity=cafe or amenity=biergarten: in many countries ice cream is sold in indoor shops where you can sit and eat it
• it is more common than shop=ice_cream

How to tag

amenity=ice_cream is used for all places that sell (only or mainly) ice cream ready to eat.

The place must be permanent, that is it should be a shop, a kiosk, a stall or anything similar; anything which moves, like ice cream vans, should not be mapped (semi-permanent vans could be mapped as well).

Photo

Here is a photo that we could use in Map Features.

Usefulness

It should be expected that ice cream shops are not shown on Mapnik, however they could be shown on specialized maps like OpenCycleMap or any other map which is geared towards tourists / pedestrians / hikers. Can be used by 'on the fly' renderers like OpenStreetBrowser.

Voting

Please use {{vote|yes}} or {{vote|no}} and sign with -- ~~~~

• I approve this proposal. -- FedericoCozzi 16:12, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Lucadelu 17:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. -- David Paleino 16:29, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Mikelima 16:30, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- SimoneSVC 16:35, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Vezzo 16:36, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- damjang 16:52, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal, how is this different from shop=ice_cream?. --Skippern 16:53, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Simone 16:55, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Giardia 16:57, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- iiizio 16:58, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal, The typical Italian «gelateria» (w/o tables etc.) is something really different from a café, while being more than just a shop. -- LucaBrivio 18:08, 1 September 2010 (EST)
• I approve this proposal. See discussion page why cuisine=ice_cream is a bad solution -- Lyx 17:26, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Accelerix 18:32, 1 September 2010
• I approve this proposal. --gvf 17:34, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Hobbie 17:51, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Magellanino 18:12, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Al3xius 18:16, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Antonino 18:30, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Klenje 18:30, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Piccardi 18:42, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- --Alessioz 18:51, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- SteveVG 19:49, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Silviopen 22:06, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- momotan 22:30, 1 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal, I believe that cafe and fast_food are enough to describe ice-cream parlours even in Italy. Valhalla 08:32, 2 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- capataz 23:05, 2 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- Zverik 11:37, 3 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Flose 10:10, 5 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. see discussion why (I think there should be 2 main types of ice_cream: amenity=cafe and cuisine=ice_cream for served places with seating, shop=ice_cream for places that sell mainly ice_cream (also mobile ones) and a subtag for other places that sell also ice cream (ice_cream=yes). Then I'd like to have a subtag for "homemade" ice_cream (ice_cream:type=artisanal) and for industrial one (ice_cream:type=industrial) -- Dieterdreist 17:58, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I abstain this proposal. -- Yes we need even more tags dumped under amenity... JohnSmith 18:35, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- I would use ice_cream=yes as subtag below amenity=cafe or amenity=fast_food etc. --Jongleur 19:01, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- I prefer shop=ice_cream, perhaps with building=kiosk. Amenity is too overused key already. --Surly 19:04, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- Lastman 19:05, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. - we already use cuisine=ice_cream (844 uses). The fast_food/restaurant/whetever else classification may be flawed, but the way to solve it is not with a new amenity type (except maybe a generic amenity=food). --NE2 20:12, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- It should be tagged as a shop/restaurant/cafe/kiosk. EAman 20:17, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. -- Awardle 2010-09-06 20:23 BST
• I oppose this proposal. -- There is already too much things in the amenity class that are not amenities. FrViPofm 20:36, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I think amenity should be avoided. -- Gkai 21:12, 6 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I think the cuisine=ice_cream solution is better. Also widely used and doesn't pollute the amenity class. Pauluzz 09:17, 7 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. The amenity tag is overused. It would be beter to use icecream as a sub-key of shop / cafe / kiosk. Dmgroom 10:57, 7 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. cuisine=ice_cream already well-used. AM909 22:28, 7 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. cuisine=ice_cream with amenity=cafe or amenity=fast_food fits better. --vsandre 09:25, 8 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Due to reasons similar to ones expressed by Dieterdreist above. -- AlfonZ 14:32, 11 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. cuisine=ice_cream with amenity=cafe or amenity=fast_food fits better. --Lulu-Ann 15:32, 13 September 2010 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. amenity=cafe with cuisine=ice_cream and shop=ice_cream discriminate more effectively between places with seats and take-away shops. --Kaitu 21:52, 13 September 2010 (BST)