Talk:Key:xmas:feature

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Merge with temporary:* namespace?

Should this set of features be merged with the currently proposed temporary:* namespace (see Proposed features/temporary (conditional))?

The Christmas market example using the temporary namespace:

Example on page Alternative using temporary: namespace

This way, the same format can also be used for other temporary features, for example Easter markets.

--Pbb (talk) 12:54, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Temporary data

Obviously there's something a bit temporary about all of this data.

I don't know about changing the tags (above suggestion), but we definitely need to at least be much clearer about temporary data on this page. We should try to justify why it is acceptable to put this data into OSM. Would it be fair to say that we should only be mapping xmas:features if they are annually recurring? (as far as we know)

I reckon ideally somebody should build a nice example of the "separate database" approach around the christmas mapping idea, and then decant all of this data out of OSM and into it.

...but in the meantime, what could we say here in a new "temporary data" section on the page?

-- Harry Wood (talk) 14:05, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Nativity scenes / Christmas cribs

A feature that - in my opinion - is really missing from this list are nativity scenes - showing Joseph and Mary and the newborn Jesus. At least where I live (central europe) this is a common sight during christmas season. Can't imagine why it hasn't been included yet? I would suggest "xmas:feature=crib". Any other thoughts? More about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_scene

Recycling

Do you think xmas:feature=recycling would be useful for places where used christmas trees are collected? So far I have done this with opening hours (node example) but I think the xmas namespace would be suited better. -- Discostu36 (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

New Year

Considering that this tag has not gone through the proposal process and is used de facto, I consider it necessary to use this tag not only for Christmas, but also for the New Year. If you have no objections, I'm going to change the description and add phrases that despite the name of the key, this tag can be used not only for Christmas, but also for New Year's features. --Grass-snake (talk) 09:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

-- What are typical new years features in the first place? Pietervdvn (talk) 11:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

-- -- In general, no differences, the same Christmas tree, gifts. Only the date and meaning differ (this is a non-religious holiday). Historically, in some countries one holiday is more popular, in others — another. I see no reason to use a new key and make special renders for such objects. --Grass-snake (talk) 11:56, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

-- Hi, New Year celebration is similar to Christmas celebration I think it's ok to change the description. Because it is similar --Miche101 (talk) 11:20, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Dates

Perhaps it is better to write the dates in the  ISO 8601 standard by analogy with the start_date key?

For example, for a single date:
xmas:day_date=YYYY-MM-DD

For period:
xmas:day_date=YYYY-MM-DD--YYYY-MM-DD


-- Yes you can do it. But I think it's better if it's compatible with opening times. opening_hours=*

OSMAnd understands for example: (by opening_hours Key)

 "2019 Apr 1 - 2020 Apr 1"
 "2019 Apr 15 -  2020 Mar 1"
 "2019 Jul 23 05:00-24:00; 2019 Jul 24-2019 Jul 26 00:00-24:00; 2019 Jul 27 00:00-18:00"
 "2019 Sep 1 - 2022 Apr 1"
 "2019 Apr 15 - 2019 Sep 1: Mo-Fr 00:00-24:00"
 "2019 Sep 1 - 2020 Apr 1"
 "2019 Apr 15 - 2019 Sep 1"

--Miche101 (talk) 11:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)