Talk:Tag:leisure=garden

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Garden beds?

I had thought that leisure=garden meant the garden bed: the flowers etc, where one does not walk, within a park. And that's how I've used it: [1]. If that's not correct (ie, the entire "gardens" should be tagged leisure=garden), then what tag should be used for the actual garden beds themselves? Stevage 04:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Tag the entire garden, including the bits you can walk in. You can always add sub-gardens if it's a large or complex garden: see Proposed features/Garden specification for a proposal which specifies garden types. Grassy areas: landuse=grass. Footpaths can be mapped as footways or paths. Flower beds can change from year to year, and might not be notable or long-lasting enough to map individually. --achadwick 12:43, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Flower beds usually are on the same spot from year to year, the flowers could change though. man_made=flower_bed? garden=flower_bed, garden:detail=flower_bed. Is there a general name in english for areas of planted things, not just flowers?/Johan Jönsson 10:59, 4 September 2012 (BST)

Deprecate this for private, residential gardens?

I move to deprecate the use of leisure=garden for private, residential gardens. Such gardens are of vanishingly small interest to the general public's - or the general map user's - leisure activities. Instead I suggest that we change the main page to recommend the combination:

landuse=residential
residential=garden

for residential gardens of little interest for the general map data consumer's leisure activities, retaining leisure=garden for gardens which are of general leisure interest. This pattern is in use, as described on the talk page for landuse=residential. It's meaningful since it follows the iterative refinement pattern. Additionally it's backwards-compatible, and I note that no interest has been shown in closing ticket 3302. --achadwick 10:45, 23 May 2011 (BST)

From the mailing list discussion, three possible alternative schemes have emerged:

Tagging Pros Cons
Option 1.
landuse=residential
residential=garden
  • Meaningful within a single object.
  • Drill-down refinement of existing meaning.
  • residential=garden is in reasonably widespread use.
  • Landuse implies larger, multi-plot areas.
  • Multiple tags for something really quite simple.
  • Repetition of landuse=* for the most likely use.
Option 2.
residential=garden

Within a separate landuse=residential area. The additional meaning comes from overlap(!)

  • No repetition.
  • Terse and easy to use.
  • Tag is in reasonably widespread use.
  • Drill-down refinement of existing meaning.
  • Is this even a general rule for OSM data?
  • Full meaning is not expressed on a single object.
  • Requires special processing to determine the full meaning.
Option 3.
garden=residential

Within a separate landuse=residential area. The analogy is with building=*.

  • Defines an object's garden-ness, not its residential qualities.
  • Handles occasions where a house's "private residential garden" is inside some other sort of landuse.
  • Can be combined with leisure=garden for objects where leisure=* is appropriate.
  • Full meaning is expressed on a single object.
  • Can be expanded to cover other garden types for leisure=*. Suggest we steal the values from the stale Proposed features/Garden specification
  • Might have to explain harder that leisure=* is inapplicable most of the time, but that's about it.

I find myself tending towards Option 3. at the moment. --achadwick 10:19, 24 May 2011 (BST)

Garden overlaying other areas

Hello people,

I just tagged a few gardens over some highway=pedestrian. The problem is that, even when I modificate the layers and set pedestrian to -5 and garden to +5, it is still not rendered. How can I fix that? --Schumi4ever 14:51, 24 October 2012 (BST)

layer=* should not be used for this stuff. It is just irrelevant. You can use layer=* on stuff like highways.--Cracklinrain (talk) 16:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)