Talk:Tag:service=driveway

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Rendering

This should really be rendered the same (or smaller) as service=parking_aisle. Perhaps it shouldn't even be rendered at all, or perhaps not rendered only if it's also access=private.

In the long run, when every house and building will have a driveway mapped, it would make the map too cluttered to read except at the most zoomed in. And when using the map for navigation, seeing every driveway would be distracting. I think a good routing program would only show driveways you're going to use on your route, and hide the rest. BigPeteB 04:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

i'm totally with you on that, because i'm someone who maps all those driveways :-) the problem is, that there is no differentiation between short driveways, only a couple meters long (to a garage or into a courtyard) and long driveways, a couple of hundred meters long, leading to rich peoples houses or farms. for now i add an additional tag "driveway=garage" or "driveway=courtyard" to those ways. that would give renderers and routing programs the chance to ignore those ways while still being able to render general service=driveway ways. maybe we should add this additional tags to the wiki page even though it's not heavily used right now. i also started a discussion about that in the german forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=11563 -- Flaimo 16:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you; when the topic at the German forum has settled down, would you mind posting a summary here for us non-German readers? I've just mapped a few driveways in my community, which you can see here, and I think it might be acceptable to render them at this high of a zoom, but I'm not sure where the cutoff is. -- Joshdoe 00:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Pipestems

How do we differentiate between driveways and pipestems? Pipestems are common in planned residential developments, where a number of houses are located off a pipestem, each with their own driveways. Maintenance of the pipestem is the responsibility of all the homeowners off that particular pipestem. Pipestems aren't named roads, so highway=residential doesn't make since, but I'm not sure if I should use service=driveway both for the pipestems and for the individual driveways. Fairfax County, Virginia, USA has a short page and photo of a sign here. - Joshdoe 15:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I've started using highway=service, service=driveway, and driveway=pipestem to tag pipestems in my area. This is compatible with existing tagging, can be easily changed to something else if it is warranted. - Joshdoe 17:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps "shared driveway" might be the better term? A quick search reveals that it's used for places in the US, and it's a common enough term here in the UK. I'd not heard the term "pipestem" for this before today, and Wikipedia thinks it's a kind of tree. Liking the drill-down typology going on here, whatever term we choose. --achadwick 14:31, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Myself I use service=driveway for both shared and non-shared since with a few exceptions neither go anywhere other then to properties. In practice I only really map ones going to shared garage-blocks, or extensions of tens of metres to residential culs-de-sac that go on to more than one typical detached house but which aren't really public road or turning circle. Out in the countryside, farms have them and so do big posh country houses: those can loop or link two public roads, so it's a good idea to mark them as being driveways, but beyond that I don't think routing algorithms would care very much. --achadwick 14:31, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Why access=private?

Isn't a driveway typically a private road? I think we should only tag what we see. If a house owner adds a sign "do not enter/private road" a access tag is needed. But if we add access tags if no signs are exists, we can not say if there is a sign or not by only looking into OSM-data. It's the same like motorways where we don't add bicycle=no.
The access will make editin or routing to complicated. If the first user adds the driveway, the second who draw the foot- or cycleway must split EVERY driveway to delete the access tags form the small part between road and cycleway. Routing Example --HalverHahn (talk) 14:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

  • My feeling is that driveways should be tagged with access=destination as service workers and unannounced visitors are generally allowed access without obtaining prior permission. They could be subsequently chased from the properly as unwanted, but unless posted as 'private property, keep out, no permission to be assumed' or something of the same gist (such as a locked gate), at least in the United States it is generally assumed that if your intention is to reach the private residence as a destination, using the driveway is permitted. --Ceyockey (talk) 02:37, 30 August 2016 (UTC)