Talk:Tag:shop=tobacco

salt=yes whether they sell salt

What does it mean? I do not understand it. Does it really mean salt or is it some acronym? Is salt really being sold in some tobacco shops?

Chrabros (talk) 04:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Also: The tag salt=* is used to indicate that a water in a water body (lake, lagoon) or water way (river) is salty. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:salt It has been used more than 1500 on ways and not even 50 on nodes. I don't think it is a good idea to use it here, too. Maybe food:salt=yes (does salt count as such?) --AndiG88 (talk) 01:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

It really means salt. In Italy selling salt was under government control unitl 1976 and was sold in "sali e tabacchi" shops. Along with cigarettes and matches which still are controlled business. And I'd rather tag this as stock:salt=yes. Rafmar (talk) 15:40, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Lottery tickets

Is there a tag that indicates that lottery tickets are sold? --AndiG88 (talk) 01:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Not exactly what you are looking for, but there is shop=lottery. --Jgpacker (talk) 17:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

In Romania we have tabacco shops, but also shops that sell Roll-your-own cigarettes

How do we differentiate them ?

Because around only 1 % of the shops that cell cigarettes, also sell Roll-your-own cigarette

Also, we have supermarkets that sell RYO cigarettes

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Baditaflorin (talk • contribs)

I don't think there is a way right now, but I suggest discussing this with the romanian community, and documenting the result on this page (saying it's mostly used on Romania). For example, you could simply add roll_your_own=yes to shop=tabacco or something like that. --Jgpacker (talk) 21:12, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Electronic cigarettes; and diversification of shops

The electronic cigarettes are now sold in specific shops (because they are still not regulated like tobacco sellers).

But since the success of e-cigarettes, and the drop on sales by tobacco shops, now we also have tobacco shops selling electronic cigarettes and their liquids too. Time for adding tag "e-cigarette=yes"?

In fact most tobacco shops today are also selling other things (since long they were also frequently selling magazines/newspapers, paper/pens/postal cards, candies, postal or fiscal stamps, city transport tickets, and various gadgets such as decorated plates, flash lights...; also alcoohol in some of them, notably those shops for betting on horse courses; now they are also facilities for delivering all kind of products sold on the Internet, in competition with former postal monopoles; some of them are also selling various kinds of food and beverage, such as fresh bread, sodas, sandwishes, ice creams; many are also selling phones or prepaid tickets for phone or mobile Internet access, or reservation tickets for various festivals, concerts, sports events).

Tobacco is not always sold in dedicated shops (because it is not regulated in every country).

Most of those shops are now multiservice (and many other shops are diversified too, including banks selling phones). Those "shops" may also be automatic only (with a robot and slots for inserting coins or banknotes, or credit card, or electronic payment with a screen dsiplaying a QR-code to pay on the Internet with a smartphone, or electronic payment without contact...).

So instead of "shop=*" with a single product class in value, we could just have "shop=yes" plus "selling:product=yes" or "shop:product=yes" for various products. Plus "automatic=yes". Plus "payment:cash=yes", "payment:card=yes", "payment:internet=yes"...

Some shops have restricted accesses for people (forbidden access to unaccompanied minors, or only for women in islamic countries) or animals/pets (example dogs, except those that are trained and used as guides for people with visual handicap).

— Verdy_p ^(talk) 13:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

There is the group of tags sells:*=yes/no/* for this kind of distinction, e.g. sells:tobacco=yes --Dieterdreist (talk) 15:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for adding this to the documentation (many existing pages for Key:shop=* could have similar note, or at least Key:shop). I assume that Tag:shop=* means it is the primary type of product or services sold.

Other tags for access restrictions (women only, no pets, etc.) are still needed too in all these shops and services, as well as automation and payment types.

Note that facilitation of access for handicaped people is well documented and applicable here too (they are opposed to restrictions). — Verdy_p ^(talk) 22:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)