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Currently, the tagging mailing list and OpenStreetMap wiki fill an important formal role in the process of discussing and voting of proposals. A new forum [https://community.openstreetmap.org] has been created which offers many new possibilities. In particular for (tagging) proposals. These proposals often affect the entire community. The proposal process requires proposal announcements to be made on the tagging mailing list. However, as explained below the mailing list is not very accessible/attractive for many mappers. The new forum, intended to be a central community place, is therefore a better place for these announcements. The main result will be in increased engagement by the community because the barrier to participate or create proposals is reduced. Below, several reasons for this changes are listed:
 
*Switching to the forums for rfcRFC and vote announcements allows every mapper to participate without the need to create a new account. They can use their current OSM account. For the mailing list, they have to subscribe to the mailing list to actually receive the emails.
*Because of how the mailing list works, you get a lot of emails that are not relevant. This discourages subscribing to the mailing list if you only want notifications of new proposals and votes. This also results in lots of unrelevantirrelevant email from the proposal author who only wants to announce and optionally discuss the proposal on the mailing list.
*It is known that there are quite some mappers who really dislike the mailing list. Because of the requirement to announce a proposal and vote there, these people are discouraged to continue with the proposal. This excludes people from coming with good proposals from which the community can benefit.
*Using simple rssRSS or email notifications, people can subscribe to new proposals and votes on the new community forum. This is accomplished by following tags (see explanation below).
 
The Wiki's talk page is still the recommended place, thisfor isdiscussing alsoproposals. This is the current situation and this proposal does not change that. However, the new forum does offer some nice enhancements for discussions:
* The new forum allows for mid-thread joining. On the tagging mailing list, it is hard to join mid discussion because you don't have access to previous received emails before subscribing. Via the archive theyyou can see previous emails, but replying to them is hard. The user interface of this archive also does not allow for easy navigatingnavigation.
*The new forum works really well on mobile devices. EspeciallyThe wiki, in particular, does not offer a user friendly websitemobile experience for editing.
*The new forum has better formatting options for mappers to support their opinions. Think— offor example: code blocks, adding images, etc.
*Using emoticon reactions, users can indicate they (dis)agree with a given comment. This prevents clutter in the discussion while still providingadding value to the discussion.
*Moderators can branch off topics when they become off-topic. This prevents clutter in the discussion.
 
===RFC announcement template===
To announce a proposal, a new topic has to be madecreated with the following format (copied from current [[Proposal process]] except for the tag):
*Forum location: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general or a new to create sub-community for proposals
*Title: <code>[RFC] Feature Proposal - <PROPOSAL NAME></code>
 
===Voting announcement template ===
To announce a vote, a new topic has to be madecreated with the following format (copied from current [[Proposal process]] except for the tag):
*Forum location: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general or a new to create sub-community for proposals
*Title: <code>[Voting] Feature Proposal - <PROPOSAL NAME></code>
For both the voting and RFC, the mapper can ''optionally'' spread this message on other platforms like Discord, the tagging mailing list and other channels.
 
''ItA isseparate alsoproposal proposedhas been made to move the voting process to the forums. See [https:/[Proposed features/Move proposal voting from wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Move_proposal_voting_from_wiki_to_the_new_forum to the new forum]] andfor the required changes.''
 
=== Subscribing to tags on Discourse ===
Discourse allows you follow a specific tag. If all RFC and vote announcements use the tag <code>wiki-proposal</code>, people can follow this tag using one of the options belowshown in the image below. Just click a tag or navigate to the URL. Example for the tag <code>feedback-request</code>: https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/feedback-request
 
Adding <code>.rss</code> to the url allows people to follow the tag via rssRSS. Example: https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/feedback-request.rss
 
[[File:Discourse tag following.png|alt=Screenshot showing the different tag following options on Discourse|frameless|470x470px]]
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