Proposal:Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list: Difference between revisions

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Updated some wording and clarifications
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*Switching to the forums for rfc and vote announcements allows every mapper to participate without the need to create a new account. They can use their current OSM account. For the mailing list, they have to subscribe to the mailing list to actually receive the emails.
*Because of how the mailing list works, you get a lot of emails that are not relevant. This discourages subscribing to the mailing list if you only want notifications of new proposals and votes. This also results in lots of unrelevant email from the proposal author who only wants to announce and optionally discuss the proposal on the mailing list.
*It is known that there are quite some mappers who really dislike the mailing list. Because of the requirement to announce a proposal and vote there, these people are discouraged to continue with the proposal. This excludes people from coming with good proposals from which the community can benefit.
*Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new proposals and votes on the new community forum. This is accomplished by following tags (see explanation below).
*The new forum allows for mid-thread joining. On the tagging mailing list, it is hard to join mid discussion because you don't have access to previous received emails before subscribing. Via the archive they can see previous emails but replying to them is hard. The user interface of this archive also does not allow for easy navigating.
 
The Wiki's talk page is still the recommended place, this is also the current situation and this proposal does not change that. However, the new forum does offer some nice enhancements for discussions:
*The new forum allows for mid-thread joining. On the tagging mailing list, it is hard to join mid discussion because you don't have access to previous received emails before subscribing. Via the archive they can see previous emails but replying to them is hard. The user interface of this archive also does not allow for easy navigating.
*The new forum works really well on mobile devices. Especially wiki does not offer a user friendly website for editing.
*The new forum has better formatting options for mappers to support their opinions. Think of code blocks, adding images.
*Using emoticon reactions, users can indicate they (dis)agree with a given comment. This prevents clutter in the discussion while still providing value to the discussion.
*Moderators can branch off topics when they become off-topic. This prevents clutter in the discussion.
 
===RFC announcement template===
To announce a proposal, a new topic has to be made with the following format (copied from current [[Proposal process]] except for the tag) :
*Forum location: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general or a new to create sub-community for proposals
* Title: <code>[RFC] Feature Proposal - <PROPOSAL NAME></code>
*Topic body: <code><DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSAL> <LINK TO PROPOSAL ON WIKI> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.</code>
*Assign the tags: <code>wiki-proposal</code>, <code>rfc</code>
===Voting announcement template ===
To announce a vote, a new topic has to be made with the following format (copied from current [[Proposal process]] except for the tag):
*Forum location: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general or a new to create sub-community for proposals
*Title: <code>[Voting] Feature Proposal - <PROPOSAL NAME></code>
*Topic body: <code>Voting has started for <PROPOSAL NAME>. <LINK TO PROPOSAL ON WIKI></code>
 
=== Subscribing to tags on Discourse ===
Discourse allows you follow a specific tag. If all RFC and vote announcements use the tag <code>wiki-proposal</code> people can follow this tag using one of the options below in the image. Just click a tag or navigate to the URL. Example for the tag <code>feedback-request</code> tag: https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/feedback-request
 
Adding .rss to the url allows people to follow the tag via rss. Example: https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/feedback-request.rss
==Features/Pages affected==
*https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process
*A new sub-community ofon the new forum shouldcan be created for these announcements and discussion.
 
==External discussions==
 
*[https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/moving-to-the-new-forum-for-proposals-and-voting/2940 Discussion on the new forum]
* [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-September/065508.html Proposal announcement on the tagging mailing list]
 
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