Proposal:Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list: Difference between revisions

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(::Huh. I opened [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposal_process#Remove_%22Please_discuss_this_proposal_on_its_Wiki_Talk_page%22 discussion] with intention of removing that ~~~~)
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{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Cartographer10|Cartographer10]] ([[User talk:Cartographer10|talk]]) 09:32, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|abstain}} "The Wiki's talk page is still the recommended place for discussing proposals." - is it adding new rule via backdoor? Why Wiki's talk page would be currently preferred? (sadly Mediawiki discussion handling is a bit absurd) [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 09:42, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
*: {{ping|Mateusz Konieczny}} The current proposal process recommends the following body of the rfc announcement email <code><DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSAL> <LINK TO PROPOSAL ON WIKI> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.</code>. I wanted to emphasize that I only change where we announce proposals, not where we discuss proposals. --[[User:Cartographer10|Cartographer10]] ([[User talk:Cartographer10|talk]]) 09:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
*:: Huh. I opened [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposal_process#Remove_%22Please_discuss_this_proposal_on_its_Wiki_Talk_page%22 discussion] with intention of removing that [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|talk]]) 10:10, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|no}} There is no harm if we require announcements to be made on two channels (forum and mailing list). It is too premature to force people that quickly into a new platform. --[[User:Nakaner|Nakaner]] ([[User talk:Nakaner|talk]]) 09:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
:*: How about requiring announcements on either one, not a must for both? --- [[User:Kovposch|Kovposch]] ([[User talk:Kovposch|talk]]) 09:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:SafetyIng|SafetyIng]] ([[User talk:SafetyIng|talk]]) 09:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|no}} This should be a two stage process. Start with both channels and see if the new option works. [[User:Adavidson|Adavidson]] ([[User talk:Adavidson|talk]]) 09:50, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} Email is not necessarily best, considering self-hosted or custom domain and other non-major player solutions will easily be caught up in spam. Unless the main website messaging system can be made into email-like to become another mailing list, but that doesn't seem worthwhile --- [[User:Kovposch|Kovposch]] ([[User talk:Kovposch|talk]]) 09:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{Votevote|yes}} I belong to the users who a discouraged to participate in the proposal process more by the rule that I need to use the mailing list for announcements. -- [[User:Discostu36|Discostu36]] ([[User talk:Discostu36|talk]]) 10:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 
{{Vote|yes}} I belong to the users who a discouraged to participate in the proposal process more by the rule that I need to use the mailing list for announcements. -- [[User:Discostu36|Discostu36]] ([[User talk:Discostu36|talk]]) 10:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 
{{vote|yes}} It's high time the mailing lists were made progressively more obsolete, it's not the 1990s anymore. --[[User:Rayleigh1|Rayleigh1]] ([[User talk:Rayleigh1|talk]]) 10:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Wetterauer|Wetterauer]] ([[User talk:Wetterauer|talk]]) 10:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} As a minimum requirement, I agree that the forum is more user-friendly than the mailing list, especially for users, like me, who don't want to be subscribed to all discussions in the tagging mailing list. If I understand correctly, this proposal still allows announcements to be made in the ML, it just doesn't make it mandatory. That sounds acceptable to me. --[[User:Waldyrious|Waldyrious]] ([[User talk:Waldyrious|talk]]) 10:11, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 
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