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{{vote|no}} This should be a two stage process. Start with both channels and see if the new option works. [[User:Adavidson|Adavidson]] ([[User talk:Adavidson|talk]]) 09:50, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} Email is not necessarily best, considering self-hosted or custom domain and other non-major player solutions will easily be caught up in spam. Unless the main website messaging system can be made into email-like to become another mailing list, but that doesn't seem worthwhile --- [[User:Kovposch|Kovposch]] ([[User talk:Kovposch|talk]]) 09:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
:*: forum get spammed too, just in case you discoverd it today and haven't see yet a spam in a forum [[User:Marc marc|Marc marc]] ([[User talk:Marc marc|talk]]) 17:11, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} I belong to the users who a discouraged to participate in the proposal process more by the rule that I need to use the mailing list for announcements. -- [[User:Discostu36|Discostu36]] ([[User talk:Discostu36|talk]]) 10:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} It's high time the mailing lists were made progressively more obsolete, it's not the 1990s anymore. --[[User:Rayleigh1|Rayleigh1]] ([[User talk:Rayleigh1|talk]]) 10:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|no}} As per [[User:Nakaner|Nakaner]], [[User:Adavidson|Adavidson]] and [[User:Something B|Something B]]. I also don't think that the linear nature of Discourse discussions lends itself to long discussions at all. So requiring proposals to be announced on such a platform instead of a platform that actually supports hierarchical threads does not make much sense to me. Yes the mailing list UI isn't ideal but that is something that can be improved. --[[User:Push-f|push-f]] ([[User talk:Push-f|talk]]) 10:51, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|no}} as per [[User:Push-f|push-f]] which means it inherits also the contributions by [[User:Nakaner|Nakaner]], [[User:Adavidson|Adavidson]] and [[User:Something B|Something B]]. Also I do not see a reasonable transition plan, how long is the transition period etc. Finally I believe this will make people’s life more difficult because it means we’ll have discussions on the tagging mailing list which lead to a proposal that is then announced on a different medium and voting is on the wiki, so visiting 3 different venues required instead of 2. I could imagine moving the tagging mailing list to the community forum as a whole if it supported threaded discussion. --[[User:Dieterdreist|Dieterdreist]] ([[User talk:Dieterdreist|talk]]) 11:00, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
*: {{ping|Dieterdreist}} That is no different from other communication platforms. If we have a discussion on Discord, I have to make a proposal and announce it on the mailing list. The same for forums, local chat apps etc. So it can also be viewed the other way around. --[[User:Cartographer10|Cartographer10]] ([[User talk:Cartographer10|talk]]) 15:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Mashin|Mashin]] ([[User talk:Mashin|talk]]) 11:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Chris66|chris66]] ([[User talk:Chris66|talk]]) 11:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Tordanik|Tordanik]] 15:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|no}} it's premature, the conversation has shown that switching from the list to the forum is non-functional for half of the important points. when this is done, then it will be possible to create a common place between emails and a forum interface, and this proposal will have no more interest, each one choosing his preferred way of communication. until then I see no reason to force people to use an interface with the least advanced capabilities [[User:Marc marc|Marc marc]] ([[User talk:Marc marc|talk]]) 17:10, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
*: {{ping|Marc marc}} The recommended place for discussion stays the Talk page on wiki. I don't force people to participate in discussions on the new forum. I only change where announcements are made. I have shown that there are enough ways to subscribe to announcements on the new forum (also get notifications via email). People can then discuss the proposal on the talk page if they don't like discussing on the new forum --[[User:Cartographer10|Cartographer10]] ([[User talk:Cartographer10|talk]]) 17:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Kjon|Kjon]] ([[User talk:Kjon|talk]]) 17:15, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
{{vote|yes}} --[[User:Grass-snake|Grass-snake]] ([[User talk:Grass-snake|talk]]) 17:16, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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